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#201715 - 03/14/02 08:01 PM The saga finally ends.. The 2000 is no more.
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Registered: 11/10/00
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I finally did it. I was tired of hearing.. maybe next week, or ..Yamaha USA just doesn't have an answer at this time, or we just don't know when the new OS will be available. In the end I decided to commit to the PA80 for the portion of my act that will require the use of an arranger. I took the refund on the 2000 and ran.. about 40 feet from the counter right to a new Motif.

Kudos to Chris, Jon and all of Alto music in Middletown, NY for accomodating me as best they could. Maybe..for me, this was how it was supposed to be all along. I wanted my main setup to include at least one arranger, but deep down inside there were times when I also wanted one workstation / synth, even for live play. I really wanted to embrace the 2000, and for a time I even considered going from the PA80 to the Triton Le or a Roland Fantom or XP series board but the OS issues in the 2000 were just too much for me to overcome, and while I'm sure that at some point Yamaha will work this stuff out and make it right, in the end my patience with it just ran out.

I gotta do a lot of learning again, so that I'll be ready and able to incorporate her into my act and into my studio. The Motif is a whole other animal, but so far I am liking ths sounds a lot and I can glimpse the potential it has in features. The key feel is a tad bit stiffer than on the PA80, but I like it. I don't know much esle about it other than I have a basic understanding of the features it has and what I expect to get out of it.

In the end I opted to get the harmonizer for the PA80, and AI'll likely get one for the Motif as well. I gotta go study, but I also better find me a Yahoo type Motif group too. The manual is 298 pages long, plus a separate 62 pages for midi implementation data. whew !!

Korg AJ
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#201716 - 03/14/02 08:06 PM Re: The saga finally ends.. The 2000 is no more.
DanO1 Offline
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Registered: 01/31/01
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A video manual is available for the Motif !
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#201717 - 03/14/02 08:19 PM Re: The saga finally ends.. The 2000 is no more.
Bluezplayer Offline
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Good thing DanO. I suspect I'm gonna need it. Thanks for the info.

AJ
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#201718 - 03/14/02 08:30 PM Re: The saga finally ends.. The 2000 is no more.
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Registered: 06/27/01
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Bluezplayer, get THE DVD MANUAL ASAP! - Its great, and really goes into detail without being complicated. It is nearly 2 hours long, and many people on www.Motivator.com have found it a great help. I haven't got the Motif, but I brought the Manual (DVD), just to see what it was like etc, and it is good. I might buy a Motif myself one day, but would have liked moere effects bussess on it.

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#201719 - 03/14/02 08:36 PM Re: The saga finally ends.. The 2000 is no more.
jedi Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
Hi Bluezplayer,
Congrat`s on your new KB, from the sound of things I think your well overdue for some good luck with a new KB. Once you have a chance to get used to it be sure to give us a reveiw!! Did you get the 6,7,or 8 not that it matters just curio. Anyway best of luck and happy playing
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#201720 - 03/14/02 09:02 PM Re: The saga finally ends.. The 2000 is no more.
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
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Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
I got the 6. I can't even imagine me hauling the bigger ones to gigs.. lol
It'll be awhile before I can completly evaluate it, but so far I'm loving the voices and sounds. It just does so much more... I'm sure there are functions I won't use that often if ever, but wow...

Korg AJ
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#201721 - 03/14/02 10:48 PM Re: The saga finally ends.. The 2000 is no more.
synthmeister Offline
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Registered: 01/09/02
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Great board Korg AJ,

I wish you luck, glad you finally got the issue resolved. Let me know if you end up using it on the road for its great sounding lead voices, I'm anxious to know how well it works in this type of set-up. I am kind of jealous, you got both boards that I dream of owning. I am not a Yamaha fanatic due to certain past situations, somewhat like yours, but the Motif is a serious piece of equipment and even though I knock Yamaha sometimes, they do have great gear for the bang for the buck it's just that they manage to hurt themselves with really bad business decisions sometimes. Again, congratulations!

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#201722 - 03/14/02 11:07 PM Re: The saga finally ends.. The 2000 is no more.
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
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Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
Thanks Synth and everyone who has been here along with me on this ride. Well, it's kind of backwards from the way I thought I had envisioned it earlier on, but I think it will work just fine for me. I loved the PA80 as a home / composing board, but I wasn't convinced that I'd be quite as comfortable with it as I thought I was going to be with the 2000 for the live stuff. I had even envisioned a setup of the 2000 and the Triton or Triton LE, with the PA80 as odd "man" out of the equation, but it just didn't pan out and this is how it turned out instead. It surely isn't bad though at all. I like the PA80 voices vs the 2000, but I gotta say, so far the a lot of the Motif sounds are as good if not better to me than the PA80 or the Triton. Heck the thing sounds great even when I feed it into the PA80's inputs and out through its speakers, which is all I do at home when I'm just practicing. Now I just gotta figure out how it all works as a unit, but I think I can get a handle at least on the basics with the Motif pretty quickly. I found the Fantom to be a lot easier to figure out and operate than the Motif at first glance, with those good Roland sounds to boot, but it just never really grabbed me like the Motif has or the PA80 did.

Korg AJ



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