I really like the PA800 also, Ketron has the more traditional latin/european type stuff better.

But I found the styles more believable in a sense of a live band sound. with allot of room to add your own touches.

My tyros 2 was a little to bit finished for me. I also found some of the styles like waltzs almost too much.

29 lbs does help

On the other side of the coin, you could say that Yamaha do not need to bring out updates, as they get it pretty much spot on first time around.
Another way to look at things

Bill

Yeah... I was thinking that, too...

Do the T2 owners have any bugs unfixed? New features are one thing (and very welcome!) but primarily, ALL bugs should be squashed before a company signs off on a product. That's the main issue...

Maybe drdalet's post, 'multipads' concerns a bug in a 3k.

You're joking right? If that were true then my 9000 Pro would never have had any issues which definitely wasn't the case. Yamaha's total lack of support for that flagship product forced me to sell my 9000 Pro and move on to greener pastures (Wersi). In hindsight Yamaha did me a huge favor by showing me how little such a large corporation cares about their customers and products. I'd never have known just how much more advanced the Wersi OAS systems are if I had kept my Yamaha 9000 Pro. Thanks Yamaha for doing me a big favor!

Could you be as so kind to give some insights on the superior operating system over the 9000pro,Ensnareyou?

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If you look at all computer driven products, such as routers, computers, and such, there are always some type of software revision,

To say that a company did it right and there are no possible enhancements of fixes is a pretty bold statement.

Sure the T2 works great without any "bugs" but is it perfect, NO. Could things be enhanced or changed , sure. Because if the answer is no, then there is no reason for a T3

Ive always had a love /hate relationship with Korg...Ive owned many of them thru the years since the early 80's......love the sound but hated the difficulty in Navigation with the multiple steps real time OS.....
what has improved on the Pa800 vs the older PA80?

If a manufacture gets it right first time, he does not need to keep bringing out updates, and can therefore concentrate on developing the next generation model.
Enjoy whatever you play

Bill

Once again, I tend to agree... A manufacturer is not obliged to revise a working product. Where is the profit in that?

However, as new feature development progresses slowly towards a new model, manufacturers will sometimes (especially when they HAVE to bring out a new OS to correct poorly designed features and squash bugs) incorporate some of the new features to 'beta-test' them before the new product launch. And you will often see this when a new generation of product first appears, like my G70.

However, the T2 is a second-generation product, so many of the 'fixes' and improvements from the T1 have already been incorporated, leaving them with a mature, reasonably bug-free product (or at least, T2 owners are VERY tight-lipped about any unfixed bugs, unlike us Roland users!), so unless Yamaha want to lose sales of the T3 by releasing the new features for free, they are likely to just wait until the new model is ready...