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#203852 - 11/24/02 04:07 PM Tyros piano shootout - Genesys added.....
svpworld Offline
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Registered: 08/16/00
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The Genesys grand piano has now been added to the "piano shootout" along with Tyros, 9000 pro, 9000 pro with piano board and psr2000 keyboards. Tune in to www.svpworld.com/tyrospiano.htm and decide!

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Simon


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#203853 - 11/24/02 04:27 PM Re: Tyros piano shootout - Genesys added.....
freddynl Offline
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Interesting, shall I add a K2600?

By the way Simon, somehow your name is familliar, were you on the AWE32 jammer list long time ago???
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#203854 - 11/24/02 06:16 PM Re: Tyros piano shootout - Genesys added.....
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Thanks for providing this commparison with the Genesys as well. This keep sgetting tougher and tougher all the time. I still prefer the Tyros for the #1 slot, as I find it the most different sound in the playoffs....the expansion card I still feel comes in last place to me ears.

The 9k, 2k and Genesys all sound equally good to me, so it's hard to pick a clear ranking for me out of these 3. Each has some great strengths and minor weaknesses....I suppose if I absolutely had to rank them though..........

1 Tyros - lively with alot of warmth and richness
2 9000 pro - rich and warm
3 2000 - bright
4 Genesys - warm
5 expansion to me, lacking in all of the above

I suppose I just like the Yammy pianos I guess....but always have.

But....
I would not be unhappy with 2,3, or 4 though all sound great to me.
jam on,
Terry



[This message has been edited by trtjazz (edited 11-24-2002).]
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#203855 - 11/24/02 07:36 PM Re: Tyros piano shootout - Genesys added.....
Luis.Santos Offline
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Registered: 10/18/02
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Loc: Portugal
Why not add SD1?...

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#203856 - 11/25/02 02:23 AM Re: Tyros piano shootout - Genesys added.....
svpworld Offline
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Registered: 08/16/00
Posts: 442
Loc: UK
If someone can post me the mp3's of K2600, Korg SD1, KN7000 then I will be happy to put them up on the comparison table. You will need to download the midifiles from the page and record mp3 files from them, then email them to me. Unfortunately I dont own all those keyboards so I have to rely on the good work and assistance of all my friends!

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Simon


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#203857 - 11/25/02 03:32 AM Re: Tyros piano shootout - Genesys added.....
ziggy Offline
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Registered: 08/13/02
Posts: 222
Loc: Malta
Cheers Simon for putting the Genesys Piano at least my effort for recording the piano wheren't for nothing. But I still have to ask any of you what is the best program to record from my keyboard to my computer?
I have Cakwalk 8, Cool Edith pro, Cubasis VST, Sound Forge and Digitec can anybody tell me which is the best to record with.

I am saying this cause I wasn't setisfied with the result of the Piano,It sounds much better than what you've heard, so I want to try and give you a more realistic copy of what it really sounds like.
So any help will be apreciated.

Tony.

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#203858 - 11/25/02 04:45 AM Re: Tyros piano shootout - Genesys added.....
trtjazz Offline
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Registered: 08/01/02
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Tony
I have Sonar, but any of those programs you mentioned should do as good a job.
jam on,
Terry
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#203859 - 11/25/02 06:34 AM Re: Tyros piano shootout - Genesys added.....
ziggy Offline
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Registered: 08/13/02
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Loc: Malta
Cheers thx Terry for your support Is sonar a Shareware softwear???

Tony

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#203860 - 11/25/02 06:55 AM Re: Tyros piano shootout - Genesys added.....
msutliff Offline
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Registered: 03/08/01
Posts: 640
Loc: Cottage Grove, MN, USA
Hello Ziggy,

Just out of curiosity, how did you record those 3 midi files on the Genesys?

mike

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#203861 - 11/25/02 08:36 AM Re: Tyros piano shootout - Genesys added.....
The Pro Offline
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Registered: 07/09/02
Posts: 1087
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
Ziggy: for recording and making the MP3 files I would suggest using Sound Forge. That's what I used for making the Yamaha 9000 Pro and expansion card MP3's. Make sure you have optimum gain so you're getting a good recorded signal. When you create the MP3 file, set it to save at 128KBits/second - 44.1k 16-bit. I think you may have created your MP3 at a lower bit rate which gave an inferior sound to the other comparison MP3's. Also try to trim any excess silence off the end of the file to make the file smaller. What I heard sounded very promising and I look forward to hear more of the Gensys.

Some people have asked about which programs to use for creating the midi files. I use a variety of programs, including the following:

Power Tracks Pro ($29): perfect starter sequencing program with many features - best "bang for the buck". Available for PC only from http://www.pgmusic.com/.

Master Tracks Pro ($80): Been around a long time and still a very good pro workhorse sequencer. I rely on this a lot for basic MIDI track creation (this is what I used to create the midi files for the piano shoot-out). Easier to use than most - great "humanizer" feature. Available for PC or Mac from http://www.gvox.com/

Sonar ($ depends on package but around $350): one of the most comprehensive sequencers on the market. Mild learning curve but worth the effort. Records midi+audio. Both Sonar and some other cheaper starter sequencer programs available for PC from http://www.cakewalk.com/

There are others to choose from like Cubase and Logic but Power Tracks, Master Tracks and Sonar are my favs.
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