Hi all,
How many demosongs does the G-70 have? I've only heared a few, like six songs or so. Many thanks!

As far as I remember at least 20!

Hi,
OK, just wondered. I am choocing between the G-70 and the PA1XPro. I have not tried the G-70 yet, but the PA1X and I really liked its sounds.
I've read about the bugs that the G-70 had, and maybe I know which one to buy...

You know your own taste, just buy what you
like best. But do not believe the negative
messages about the G70. These messages are
written by persons that hate Roland, I do not
know why. Maybe they sell no Roland or they
hate other keyboardsellers.

Are you sure?

I don't like to think it. Because if negative messages were written by persons that hate or not sell a kb, all of us may say that positive messages about a kb (G-70 or other one) are written by persons that love it.

So, if there is no neutral people...

NOT SO!

I am a contributor who has made some negative comments on both the G-70 - which I am a potential customer for, and about the VA-76 - which I currently own.

These comments are based on my observations as a keyboard user who puts his money where his mouth is, and who has owned instruments from Yamaha, Korg, GEM, Technics & Roland at one time and another.

Each instrument tends to have it's own good & bad points, but some seem to be better overall than others. This is sometimes irrespective of price.

For example, in my opinion, the current Korg PA-50 seems a far better sounding, and better designed, machine, than the Roland VA7/76 at around twice the price. However, I bought the Roland because it has a particular operating mode that I particularly wanted, that none of the Korg range offers.

I am equally happy to acknowledge both the good & bad points of these, and other, instruments (& their manufacturers). Having said that, I do struggle a bit to find much positive to say about the VA-76 :-)

Regards - Mike

Hi all,
Many thanks for your comments!
Well, I'll go and look at the G-70 just to compare it with the PA1X. And yes, they are two different models, but just to see what it is.

Bevan,
Again you accuse my of 'Hating Roland'?
It seems YOU are hating me for some reason.

Please believe me : I love Roland-products as long as they do what I expect them to do.
I owned the U110, Canvas, VS880, VS1880 and there is nothing wrong with the brand Roland.

Who are you, telling the 'world' I did not own the G70 ?
Who are you, accusing me for lies?

Remember ALL members have rights to have opinions about products.... including you.
This is not a place to fight!

I've "known" Roel through this and previous forums for many years. His opinion is just that--an opinion, but believe me, if he says it, then it is what he truly believes. He has no agenda other than to try to help.
He has repeatedly said that the keyboard he purchased, then returned, may have been an early model that was not up to date with the latest software.
DonM

Hi Roel, I do not hate you, just the way you
write your messages. They are too destructive
and not good in a great forum like this.We all together here have a certain responsabi-
lity to keep it clean and fair.
We all know there are diffences between key-
boards and should not damage instruments
that just are introduced. Too hard shouting
is not good for your own throat. I do not on-
ly mean your messages about the G70, your be-
haviour against Ketron was not fair too.

Bevan,
You are right....
It's not fair to want some quality equipment after I paid about 3000 Euros for the G70.
It's not fair wanting a good sounding machine right out of the box.
It's not fair wanting a long promised OS update after 1,5 years of waiting. (SD1)
All members here know I used to be one of the most loyal Ketron fans for four years and now I hear my behaviour towards Ketron wasn't fair??

I might be wrong but I get the impression you ARE a keyboardseller.... and you are from B. This explains a lot!


[This message has been edited by Roel (edited 12-20-2004).]

Bevan, I want to step forward and defend Roel here as well. Knowing him as good friend here for over 5 years, I can atest that he meant no harm or injury, but merely expressed his personal candid opinions, of which he is entitled to. Though I may not always agree with Roel's opinions, I have grown to RESPECT and VALUE them highly.

Still, because everyone's personal playing needs & expectations are uniquely different, I've LONG AGO realized that the only way to really determine if the G70 (or any other keyboard) is the RIGHT one for you or not is only after having actually PLAYED it yourself. Relying solely on hearing factory demos, watching a demonstrator play, or relying only on the reviews here, isn't enough. That said, I'm looking forward to the opportunity to test drive the G70 myself.

In regards to Ketron: Roel has been the STRONGEST PROMOTER of the SD1 on this forum for MANY years. In fact it was his enthusiam for it that persuaded me to seriously consider purchasing the SD1 myself. Only after I finally had a chance to audition it myself, and on several different occasions, that I determined it not the best choice for me (personally).

Scott

DonM & Scott,

Thanks guys!!

That's what friends are 4. - Scott

Bevan,

Like the others here I would like to express my sympathy for my good friend Roel and his valued opinions. And before you lash out at him once more I would recommend you to get your facts straight. Like Scott said , and like I know from personal experience Roel has been the most fanatic advocate of the Ketron SD1 to date, and as regards his opinion on the G70, it may have been a bit premature but it was certainly sincere.
There's no point in mud-slinging here on this tremendous forum so I would humbly suggest you write him a personal note in our own language (being all Dutch) and get it over and done with.

P.S. I am under the impression you are a very young musician , am I right here ?

regards to all,
john smies
P.S.


[This message has been edited by john smies (edited 12-22-2004).]

Hi Roel

I agree 100% with you that for me is a dependable SZ member.
After listen all Mp3 demos and as a Roland owner since E20 until Va7 , I think that G70 seems a unfinished product(IMO).
Your comments are result of the frustation of someone that spent a lot of money for a brandnew keyboard and didn't see great innovations.
Another tip:
As a native bossa and samba player I think that Roland don't know how to make samba and bossa styles.
The brasilian samba and bossa of a cheap Psr 295 or Korg Pa50 are far better that the "new" G70 styles recorded in demos(IMO).

Chico

Hi,
but your 'Girl from Ipanema' on PSR2000 at
psrtutorial didn't sound like Vincius de Moreas, right?
Regards: Hanspeter

Hello Hanspeter

You can like or dislike my music and you can make better also.
I just said that G70 sambas and bossas recorded in the available demo do not sound as I would like.

Regards
Chico