Eric......simply awesome Wow, what you can do with this baby!!!

Thanx for sharing!!

Not heard a Yamaha synth for ages and WOW this thing rocks.
Please stop posting these tempting links, I'm on the phone to my music shop now getting a part x price against my SD1.
This would sit lovely above my T2 lmao

I'm thinking about adding a Motif Rack ES to my Tyros2 for nice Synth sounds, arpeggios and more. Anyone that has done this already? The price is around 1200 Euro's.
http://www.motifator.com/rack/index_rack.php

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Didn't even know about these new synths!

I've been drooling over them too especially the studio management software that allows you to graphically edit the onboard voices, setup performances, etc and save it all INSIDE your sequencer as part of your song/project (Cubase, Logic).

Hi,
I have a Tyros 2 and a Motif ES rack and I love it. Wish Yamaha had included more arpeggios in the Tyros 2 multipad banks and also the great acoustic bass found in the Motif.

Hi Andrea,

great seeing you post again.
I have a couple of questions regarding your setup:
1.Can you sync the appregiator of the ES with the styles of the T2?
2. Since the ES has a lot of the sounds of the T2 what is the main difference or advantage of adding an ES to the T2 besides the appregiators?

I have been thinking of maybe adding one myself to the T2 down the road.
3. Is it easy to set up?
4. Can you store settings of the ES in the registration memory of the T2 via midi? That would be kind of important to me.

Thanks

Eric

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Oh My Goodness - This summer I'm going to be working and I will buy this baby for sure ! I don't need anything else - I just want that sweetie !

Does anyone have Midi file for Roland VA-76 ( Maroon 5 - This Love )? and Coldplay ? (The GM files that this guy has on the MO6)
I'd like to have them for my Roland VA-76.

Thanks

Eric,
thank you for missing me...
Hope that all is well with you, Claudia and Sunny.

Now, to answer your questions:

1. Yes, the arpeggiator can be synced with an external source (midi clock); of course there are a few things to set in the Tyros 2 midi page as well.
2. The Motif ES has many sounds not found in the Tyros, and vice versa. Aside from the terrific acoustic bass I mentioned (which is sadly missing in the Tyros), I love many of the organ sounds of the ES, and find them better and more realistic, compared with the Tyros. On the other hand, the ES lacks all the beautiful SA voices, in particular the acoustic guitar and the tenor saxophone.
3. I would lie if I'd tell you that the ES is a piece of cake to program: it's indeed rather complex to set up and things aren't made easier by the tiny display. Luckily, included in the package there is an editor you can use on your computer to modify all the parameters (the computer must be connected to the ES via USB).
4. Unfortunately, the T2 has very limited master keyboard abilities; from this point of view, I think that the only arranger keyboard that can store settings like bank and program changes in a registration is the Korg PA1 X pro. It looks like Yamaha thinks that the Tyros is a self-sufficient entity, that does not need to transmit data to external devices. Roland did the same mistake with the G-70, which could have been a perfect master keyboard, otherwise.

If you are looking for an external module with very interesting sounds, to add to the T2 internal ones, I can suggest you the Fantom XR; I own one and am very happy with it. The arpeggios are not on the same level as the Motif ES (both in number and variety), but the sounds are different and complement the Tyros very well. Plus, it has EIGHT expansion slots, and Roland just released a card with killer electric pianos (the SRX 12).

Ciao!

Andrea

Hi Andrea, ,

thank you for the fast response and thorough answer.
Mmmmmh; you gave me a lot of food for thought.
I don't know what I want more: appregiators or sounds.
I really like the sounds on the T2 and have almost everything I need: Guitars, Saxe's, Organs, Brass and Flutes, a decent Piano and E-piano.
What I do miss at times are some ethnic sounds and some really good choir samples.
The 9000 scat voices are just not cutting it.
On the other hand I agree that the T2 could have had some more multipads. Therefor some appregiators would be nice.
How is the ease of use with the Fantom vs. the ES?

I guess I have to listen to one of those babies

Ciao

Eric

Eric,
if you are looking for choirs the Fantom XR has some of the best vocal sounds I have ever heard. And, speaking of ethnic sounds, the card SRX 09 (World Collection) is dedicated entirely to ethnic instruments and rhytm sets.
What sets the Fantom XR really apart from other modules is the ability to install eight expansion cards, which are much better compared with the PLG cards available for the Motif (and also for the 9000 pro). Plus, in the Motif ES rack you can install only two of them...

You can find audio/video demo's of the SRX cards here:

Let me know if you have more questions.

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who's claudia ?

Should i Buy the MO6 ? It has nothing to do with the VA76 that i happen to own

I probably will - cuz i've always loved it

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Hi Claudiu
Claudia is the name of my wife

Hi Andrea,

I'm at work right now, but I will check it out tomorrow.
I was hoping that there was a demo video floating out there.

Last question: how about ease of use and set up of the Fantom verses the Motif ES?

Thanks again

Eric

Andrea, good to see you back. Haven't seen u posting for a while.

Regards,

claudiu

Claudiu, thanks! Nice to see you there as well.

Eric, I would say that the Fantom in general is easier to program compared with the Motif ES; moreover, the Fantom XR has a sampler, which is lacking in the Motif ES rack, so in theory you could load your own sounds in it.
On the Roland US website ( www.rolandus.com ) you can find demo's of almost everything, including videos.

Hi Andrea,

thanks for the link.
The expansion boards on the Fantom are really great.
I'm still in the process of setting up my T2, so it'll be a while before I jump to something new... but the Fantom looks great so far.

Thanks again for all your time.

Ciao

Eric

Just checked out the Fantom 76 note and the MO 88 key and yippeee, bye bye SD1 hello MO 88.
Fantom was very nice but the MO is far cheaper and still sounded amazing. Also I've been wanting 88 weighted keys for ages and the piano sounds/feel of the keys were great, even better than those on the Fantom which were very good.
The MO's screen is no where near as good to look at, but I'd rather link it to my PC and do the sound editing that way.
I think it also only weighs in the low 40 lbs so great for 88 notes, nice and light.
I'll let you peeps know what I think about soon.

I watched this video like 30 times this week - it's simply awesome ! ! !

Well thank goodness for good music shop sales staff. I got a phone call at the weekend telling me about the Yamaha S90ES and that it would definitely be better for me than the MO8. There's little to choose between them, but I have finally settled on the S90ES instead of the MO8. The S90ES wasn't in stock when I first enquired about the MO range.

I agree. It sounds amazingly but surely needs lots of time to spend on editing with a computer. So far I've prefered arrangers to workstations - arrangers seem much simpler to work with.

Hi,

The MO6 is really superb. In the beginning of the demo video, there was this trance track playing (pattern). Are these patterns similar to styles on the arranger keyboards which have chord matching features or do they work differently...

Thanx
SUNNY

I sold my MO ES 88 and replaced it with a P-250. The Piano's in the 250 blow away the ES 88. The ES was such overkill for me as I don't do sequencing. Since I have the T2, I still have the Motif Sound engine at my disposal. As a matter of fact, many of the sounds I had in the Motif I now have in the T2 which were converted by Bad Mister for the Tyros from the Motif.

Hi kbrkr I've not heard the piano sounds in the P-250 but I can say the ones in the S90ES are amazing and the keyboards feel is excellent. This also has the motif sounds which as you put do sound like the T2, but there's more of them in here and both complement each other very well.