PSR2000 TRANSPOSE

I'm new to playing music, and have just discovered how nice it can sound using transpose while playing a song.

While playing "live", and after having pressed the transpose-button, the tranpose happens next time I press a chord on the keys. Thats good.

But when I want to record the song on the PSR2000 it all goes wrong. The transpose happens as soon as I press the transpose button (and not when I press the next chord on the keys). Each transpose-step can be heard while playing back the song. And the transpose effects only the style, not the voice.

So how doo I record a song using transpose somewhere in the song?

Regards
Mogens

Save your transposition (key change) in Registration Memory.

Before performing (recording) a song, store your kb setups (sound selection, style variation, key transpose, etc) for each section of a song in Registration Memory buttons. Then when recording, you only have to remember to activate one 'reg increment' button (via foot pedal) to trigger your different custom setups, while progressing from one section of the song to another. Hope this helps. - Scott

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Scott - thank you for the responce.

But the problem remains the same.
The transpose is out of sync (too late) and does not transpose the voice.

Mogens

The easiest solution would be learning to play the chord progression in the transposed key. This is what musicians have done for hundreds of years before the transpose feature was created.

Larry

This may be another of those little things that the 2000 doesn't do exactly right. I haven't tried to initiate the transpose during recording and don't have the keyboard at home.
While the 2000 is a great value for the dollar, there are some shortfalls. Also there are some recognized bugs that have been addressed, and some that have not. I'm certain that are some that have not been discovered. Getting them addressed by Yamaha will indeed be a major problem.
Sorry you're having this problem. I can play in any key, but still use the transpose function because certain "licks" are easier to play in certain keys.
DonM

LOL, Larry, I have to agree. One other solution I can think of offhand. Do you have cakewalk or another similar software seqeuncer that allows you to access certain portions of a midi file ? If you do, simply do the transposition in the software. You can access certain portions in cakewalk ( say for example all the instruments except drums from measures 4 thru 8 ), and then simply tranpose those measures.
It should work ( I only have the very low end cakewalk express and it works ).

AJ

Sorry if I came accross too preachy, but it is good to know how to play in every key.

I was going to suggest transposing in Cakewalk, but I'm not sure if that would get rid of the harmonizing problem. It's worth a try, however.

There is a program, I think at SVPworld.com where you can create a midi sequence in Cakewalk and hang onto the sysex information containing the chord changes that you need for harmonizing.

Larry

Don's right - it's not a question of transposition, but rather finger-position! Some things are almost impossible in some keys .... like certail blues licks that involve sliding up to a note (like a grace note) Try the same riff in "E" and "F" it becomes entirely different.
The transpose button becomes a digital capo - a most needed, highly professional tool to aid the performance of difficult, or otherwise impossible passages.
Sure, it can be mis-used, or overused, but the fact that it exists, is a good thing.
(learn to play in lots of keys anyway - it's good exercise for the hands, and makes the music sound fresher when chords are voiced differently.
Like all things ....... "Moderation is best"

I agree. After many many years of playing, the majority of which I spent playing and practicing on non arranger boards, I still find it easier for me to play difficult licks in certain keys. I try diligently to practice scales in keys I'm not quite as handy with, but sometimes my hands, as is the case with my voice, simply respond better to playing / singing in certain keys. Just the way it is.

AJ

Thank you everyone for the answers.

I will try to transpose part of the song on my computer instead.

I know I have to learn to play in diferent keys, but I'm a beginner in playing music, so it has to wait.

But I would like to ask you for some advice. How much do you transpose/change the key when playing a song - do you change up og down, and in how big steps. Are there any guidelines or is it just a matter of taste?

Mogens