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#217925 - 09/22/04 07:20 AM
Having thousands of songs
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 2206
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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I was recently walking through the store and Come Monday by Jimmy Buffet comes on. I play several of his songs but that's not a favorite, so, at first, I thought maybe I should add that one. But it's not a favorite. Sure enough, somebody requested that song at last gig.
Now, as far as requests go, you guys always seem to fulfill them but heck, I can't remember lyrics. But some people will tip you if you play a request. I like money. I need money. But I have to have a cheat sheet because I can only remember fragments of songs. I want to do this all on laptop but I haven't yet done it.
So, I was thinking, heck, no telling how many songs you could have with a laptop. I mean, there are literally thousands of songs I could play if I'm looking at the lyric/chords. I know the melodies.
I probably have almost a thousand song lyrics in text files. I guess I could just keep adding them daily and build a giant database.
How do you guys pull up a song? I mean, you are going to have to search for it on the hard drive. Anything that's made it faster to find?
Of course, in pop/rock/country/blues, my gosh, how many gazillion songs are there? A bunch.
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#217926 - 09/22/04 07:54 AM
Re: Having thousands of songs
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Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 2207
Loc: Dayton, OH USA
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Various different ways to do this...
I carry a file box of all my charts. I use charts for 95% of everything I play. Usually, when I get requests...I already have them pulled for that night's playlist.
If I don't have it pulled already-I know what's in my song database...I snag it the first chance I have. If I'm with the band...I can usually find that tune during a lead section that my sax guy covers...then we can play it right away...as long as it fits in the song flow...
If we've just played 2 fast ones...I'm not going to give my crowd strokes by overdoing it. After we play a ballad and then maybe a waltz or mid tempo piece, then he'll get his fast request.
If I'm by myself...usually, I'll pull it on my next break.
If I know I don't have it-I'll write the title down, with the venue name and the requesters name if possible. (This goes over great...) Next time I'm in the club, I intro the song as a request for "so & so"...Cash is almost always dropped on my keyboard in those cases. They're pretty impressed you tok the trouble to learn the song, knew it was THIS club where you needed to play it and who wanted it in the first place. Also, if the requester is a regular-that song gets added to the regular play list.
My song database is set up by song styles and and a alpha/numerical indexing system.
Standards (S-1, S-2, etc...) Pop (P-1, P-2, etc...)
I update and print out an updated database master list very few weeks. Its not hi-tech, but it works well for me.
Bill
[This message has been edited by Bill in Dayton (edited 09-22-2004).]
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#217929 - 09/22/04 08:15 AM
Re: Having thousands of songs
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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SemiLiveMusic:I use the user programable Music Finder database built into my Yamaha Tyros to manage my core song repetoire collection (600 Songs), which makes it easy to search for (by genre, era, artist, tempo, style) and pull up any song in just a short few seconds. It's nearly impossible to know & have memorized every song request out there, so I usually try to take take along at least one thick fakebook with me. The toughest trick (for me) isn't recalling the melody, but figuring out the correct harmony (chords) that go with it. The lucky advantage though is that (for most requested songs) the chord progression follows a commonly played chord progression pattern. One way to learn to pick up (by ear) the chords to songs is to learn to recognize & play these commonly heard chord progressions (I-VI-II-V; IV-V; etc) and then hear how they fit into specific melodies. Checkout this excellent resource book which lists all the popular chord progressions as well as the many songs which use them: Money Chords, by Richard Scott: http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/moneychords/MC.html Here's a terrific online chord tutorial to get you started: http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/moneychords/lesson.html As mentioned in an earlier thread, this highlights the importance of developing good ear training skills (note internval recognition, chord and chord progrogression recognition) which is the key to playing by ear. Further developing these above skills will increase your ability to satisfy audience song requests by ear & on the fly. Scott
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#217931 - 09/22/04 10:32 AM
Re: Having thousands of songs
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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I also us MS Word, keep all the songs in a single folder, and as Fran said, access time is lightning fast. And, once MS Word is open, the next selection opens in less than a second with my 933-mhz computer. The easiest way to access the style files and everything else you need is via the Music Finder Directory, or by using registrations with the information imbedded in the registration and titled by the song title. This one popped up in less than a half second and this is how it's displayed on my laptop: The top line shows the Song's Title, Tempo and chord I sing it with. The next line shows the PSR-2000s folder where the style is stored, the stye and the variations used in the performance. When I save the information in my music finder, the chord information is in parens such as: Who's Sorry (D) Now Always put the chord after the second word in the title so it does not affect the MFD sorting system. WHO'S SORRY NOW T=92 (D) (POP & ROCK—COUNTRY SHFL—B-D) WHO'S SORRY NOW, WHO'S SORRY NOW WHOSE HEART IS ACHIN' FOR BREAKIN= EACH VOW WHO'S SAD AND BLUE, WHO'S CRYIN' TOO JUST LIKE I CRIED OVER YOU RIGHT TO THE END JUST LIKE A FRIEND I TRIED TO WARN YOU SOMEHOW YOU HAD YOUR WAY, NOW YOU MUST PAY I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE SORRY NOW RIGHT TO THE END JUST LIKE A FRIEND I TRIED TO WARN YOU SOMEHOW YOU HAD YOUR WAY, NOW YOU MUST PAY I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE SORRY NOW I use 14-point, Times New Roman Font, bold and all caps. When you get old your eyes will thank you for this. I also use a white screen with black letters. You can see the display on the 14.1-inch screen from several feet away. In order to put as much of the lyrics on the screen as possible, turn off all the tool bars, rulers, etc. This provides the maximum viewing area and least amount of confusion. I stopped carrying fake books and lyric books after meeting up with Uncle Dave and Donny Pesce. The laptop, IMO, is the only way to go. Gary [This message has been edited by travlin'easy (edited 09-22-2004).]
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