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#220901 - 03/26/02 01:28 PM Registrations
Markus Offline
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Registered: 11/28/99
Posts: 30
Loc: Germany
Dear friends,

I am seriously thinking of a new keyboard within the next weeks. What I need is an arranger with as many one-touch-registrations as possible. For my type of music it is not possible to load in between sets. And I have to be as flexible as possible and have to choose from a choice of about 300-400 songs and therefore registrations within seconds.
As far as I have seen the Yamaha 9000pro registrations can be navigated with a pc-keyboard-numberblock. Is that true? What is it like with the Yamaha 2000?
How many registrations can it hold without loading anything, just in the flash?

Thanks in advance

Markus

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#220902 - 03/26/02 01:33 PM Re: Registrations
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
All other factors aside, if you plan to deal with a lot of registrations, the 9000 or the Pro will be much better than the 2000. It is easier to save them, easier to store them and easier to recall them.
I no longer have a 9000, but if memory serves, there are 64 banks of 8 onboard for instance access. More banks are easily loaded from hard drive or disk.
DonM
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#220903 - 03/26/02 04:40 PM Re: Registrations
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Markus,
The X-series/SD1 has 198 on-board registrations that can be accessed instantaneously. Another 999 can be accessed from FD/HD/folder.
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#220904 - 03/28/02 04:28 PM Re: Registrations
diosif Offline
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Registered: 03/14/02
Posts: 48
Loc: Greece
Roland's VA series have 128 registrations easily accessible. And you can have many sets of 128 registrations on the zip or floppy. Very easy to set them.

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#220905 - 03/28/02 04:55 PM Re: Registrations
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Nobody has really addressed your originial question. Yes, the 9000 and the Pro both offer the capability of just plugging in a computer keyboard. It is wonderful for making file names and general editing.
The 2000 does not have this funtion.
DonM

[This message has been edited by DonM (edited 03-28-2002).]
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#220906 - 03/28/02 06:01 PM Re: Registrations
diosif Offline
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Registered: 03/14/02
Posts: 48
Loc: Greece
Don, allow me to rephrase your comment: "Nobody has really addressed THE 2ND PART OF your originial question". If I got it right, Markus is searching the market for a keyboard that meets his requirement. So what we do is to provide him with info about the current keyboards. So we tell him what we know, that is, thing about equipment we possess and/or are familiar with.
Don't take it personally, it's just a clarification

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#220907 - 03/28/02 06:07 PM Re: Registrations
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Hey, we're all just here to help! You never can get too much information.
Here's what he asked:
"As far as I have seen the Yamaha 9000pro registrations can be navigated with a pc-keyboard-numberblock. Is that true? What is it like with the Yamaha 2000?"
. There are certainly other choice to Yamaha, but I don't know any others, with the exception of Wersi (which costs more than a car) that offer direct connection to a computer-style keyboard.
DonM
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#220908 - 03/28/02 06:58 PM Re: Registrations
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Hi Markus,
I just recently discovered a terrific 'free' downloadable software utility program called 'PSR Reg':
http://heikoplate.de/downl5.htm

which allows you to easily create, name, and edit Yamaha PSR Registration Memory Banks from your PC instead of having to do this on the keyboard itself. This program supoprts the PSR740, PSR2000, PSR8000, PSR9000, and 9000pro and really makes naming Registrations so QUICK and EASY.

I use the PSR2000's Reg Memory Bank feature a lot so find this program a very useful time saver.

The PSR2000 has a unique way of handling 'multiple' banks of registrations. The number of banks is only limited by the storage space available. To save valuable PSR internal user memory space by storing multiple registration banks on a floppy disk, as they load very quickly (less than 2 sec) going from 1 reg bank file to another. The size of a single Registration Bank file which holds 8 indiviual registrations is only about 13 kb so a floppy can theoretically hold up to 107 Registration Bank files, or 856 indiviual registrations. Certainly MORE than you would ever need for any single performance night. You set up the PSR2000 to automatically load up successive registration banks by setting the PSR2000's Reg Sequence parameter to 'Next Bank'. Doing this, successively named Registration Banks stored in the SAME folder, ei: reg1, reg2, reg3, reg4, etc., will automataically load after you reach the top Reg button #8 of each bank. I was surprised how short the load time is (less than 2 sec) when the PSR2000 automatically loads a successive Reg Bank file. Quite impressive. If you store these Reg Banks in User Memory, you would eliminate all delays, but unfortunately the the PSR2000 has limited onboard storage space. Thanks to quick floppy load times, the 2000's limited storage capacity has not been a problem whatsoever for me.

Markus, as you can see, I'm very impressed with the PSR2000's Reg Memory system and HIGHLY recommend this keyboard when working with Registrations. Navigating these registrations directly on the PSR2000 via the PSR2000's LCD screen is also a breeze. In spite of the few glitches I've reported here in the past, I still think the PSR2000 is the BEST arranger keyboard out there for the money today.

In addition to the PSR2000's excellent sound, another reason I'm particularly drawn to Yamaha arrangers is because of the HUGE user support base. Because there are so many talented Yamaha PSR keyboard enthusiasts out there, there's also LOTS of fantastic PSR2000 utility & style software available (for free) too. . In addition to the 'PSR Reg' program I mentioned above, the utility programs written by Michael Bedesem and Cakewalk instrument definition files make working with the PSR2000 on your computer virtually seamless. Check out these utility programs at: http://www.svpworld.com/psr_software.htm

HOW MANY other arranger keyboard lines have THIS MUCH support with both free software utility programs as well as such a vast collection of free styles to download as well: http://www.spectromagic.com/PSR-Styles-Vault-Archive/


If you don't need to take your keyboard out regularly for gigging, I'd recommend the Yamaha 9000pro, but you can't beat the PSR2000 for it's portability and fantastic sounds (every bit as great as the the PSR9000/9000pro) imho.

Scott http://scottyee.com
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#220909 - 03/28/02 07:25 PM Re: Registrations
jedi Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
Thanks Scott, but I have a Mac
gee I sometimes get so envious, just look at all that`s not avalible for Mac-users O-well I think there for iMac

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#220910 - 03/28/02 07:28 PM Re: Registrations
jedi Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
Hi,
Do you ever think that Macintosh will ever be what it once was the the music world?
jedi

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