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#221457 - 12/03/03 12:24 AM Band In A Box 2004 released...
keybplayer Offline
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Here is the scoop:

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Best regards,
Mike
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#221458 - 12/03/03 11:35 AM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
Bluezplayer Offline
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Good Job Mike. Thanks for the info. I'm interested in it. It looks like there are a lot of new features, and I think maybe I'll prefer this over Jammer pro now, especially since I'm not all that fond of Jammer's latest release

AJ

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#221459 - 12/03/03 11:44 AM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
Graham UK Offline
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I use BIAB v12c almost daily. It will be interested to see if the new 32 bit interface in the new 2004 version makes an improvement.
Perhaps anyone having the new version can give an update.

Graham UK

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#221460 - 12/03/03 12:25 PM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
GlennT Offline
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Loc: Medina, OH, USA
I've been a BIAB user for some time. Between it and it's sister sequencer program, PowerTracks, you can do anything easily and well. Support is fantistic... 800# and a live person! I've been checking out the new version online... Digitech harmonizer, pitch correction, and more. I'll be getting the upgrade for sure. Go to PG Music's home page:
http://www.pgmusic.com/

and check out the new features video. It's very comprehensive.

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#221461 - 12/05/03 06:33 AM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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How would I use BIAB with my Ketron X-1. The web site says you can use it to create styles. My understanding of it is, you use it to create MIDI files. It would be great if it created style files for arranger keyboards. Could someone please explain how you use BIAB? Thanks

Tom
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#221462 - 12/05/03 07:39 AM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
Clif Anderson Offline
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BIAB has its own styles in its own proprietary format. BIAB styles are more sophisticated than arranger styles in several respects. BIAB uses these to generate songs. AFAIK, they cannot be used in real time. AFAIK, there is no BIAB-arranger conversion utility. I bet of lot of us would be interested in a real-time interactive BIAB, with its newly added vocal harmony and plug-in support.

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#221463 - 12/05/03 08:26 AM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
Jos Maas Offline
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A real-time BIAB with vocal harmoniser support? How about www.1manband.nl ?



Jos

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#221464 - 12/05/03 11:22 AM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
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Good move Joe!
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#221465 - 12/05/03 11:48 AM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
GlennT Offline
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Tom...

You're right, BIAB makes MIDI and/or audio sequences. It allows you to create a very good SMF within minutes. Type in chords, select a style (100s to select from), and you have a 3-5 voice/track song. You can also add audio tracks, render to a stereo wav file, and burn a CD, all within the program.

The newest version provides a 32 bit program, unlimited tracks, DXi instrument support, notation display, *built-in* audio vocal harmonizer, plus much more.

Another new feature which sounds cool... you can load any MIDI file into BIAB and it will play with the chords displayed on-screen. You can then change the style of the MIDI file to any BIAB style. Cool, because the way I see it, you could put in a poor or mediocre SMF and have a major improvement (live MIDI guitar and drums on many styles).

You can download a demo from their home page, plus they offer a 30 return. I don't have any financial interest in BIAB of PG Music, but as you can tell, I really like the program along with PowerTracks Pro.

Glenn

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Originally posted by Tom Cavanaugh:
My understanding of it is, you use it to create MIDI files. Could someone please explain how you use BIAB?

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#221466 - 12/05/03 02:26 PM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
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Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Tom,
I don't know what style creation features the Ketron has, but on the kn7 I have a sequencer to style function ie I create a midifile of a style in BIAB , load it into the KN7 sequencer, then create a kn style from it.
The VA7 has a similar function. For PSR's there are software programs availble EMC style convert also has a midifile to style function.

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tom Cavanaugh:
[B]How would I use BIAB with my Ketron X-1. The web site says you can use it to create styles.
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#221467 - 12/05/03 03:00 PM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
Clif Anderson Offline
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Is 1manband a VST host?

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Originally posted by Jos Maas:
A real-time BIAB with vocal harmoniser support? How about www.1manband.nl ?



Jos

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#221468 - 12/05/03 03:45 PM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
Jos Maas Offline
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Clif

One Man Ban is not a VST host. Of course you can connect the midi out port to the midi in port of any VST hosting program usin a virtual midi cable like MIDI-Yoke (www.midiox.com).

Jos

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#221469 - 12/05/03 10:20 PM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
Clif Anderson Offline
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Thanks, Jos. Another question: How does OMB support vocal harmony?

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#221470 - 12/06/03 03:10 AM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
Jos Maas Offline
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OMB sends the (user definable) controllers to switch the vocal harmonizer on and off. And it send the notes to define the chord at the (user definable) vocal harmonizer detection channel. The v.h. notes are sent with velocity 1 so that you can't hear them.

Jos

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#221471 - 12/09/03 02:15 PM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
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Registered: 02/04/01
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Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
For me BIAB really shines for practice learning new tunes on my sax. Type in the chords choose a style and practice.

After I learn the tune I choose the solo feature which is very surprising to learn new licks.

Take a rough passage of chords and loop them over and over until I can hear the changes and play a decent solo. I think these are the two most important features for any horn man.

I wouldn't be without BIAB. It's greatly improved my skills at improvisation. This is where it really shines.

It's really easy to do notation also and to transpose etc. You can read the notation for any instrument on the screen or print it out. It's a fantastic music program.
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#221472 - 12/09/03 03:00 PM Re: Band In A Box 2004 released...
Bluezplayer Offline
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In the past I had favored Jammer pro ( version 4 ) over the BIAB version that was released during the same period ( BIAB 8 or 9 .. ). BIAB 8 had more features, but J pro 4 made it much easier and faster to alter styles and come up with original material to work with.

Jammer 5 has added new features, including the ability to use and alter midi data for stylemaking, but the OS has become cumberswome to me, and I think I now prefer BIAB 11 over it. I think BIAB 2004 should be a nice upgrade over version 11 ( which is now 2 versions old..there is a v12 ) , and I believe the reverse is now true, meaning that the current version of BIAB will allow me to make better original backings and style parts in an easier interface than Jammer 5 does. BIAB is also packed with a ton of features vs Jammer. Looking forward to working with it.

AJ
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