Guys and Gals with new gear...tell us all about it..

Are you happy? Disappointed?

Care to share with us?

Will report next week.......

You'll soon be playing the "Mama Blue" Zuki...cool!

Some people, not mentioning any names, can't keep a secret.

HA HA -

I'm really looking forward to determining what all the fuss was about

I still do my 900 live - nice to have a security blanket

Will do some comparisons...should be fun.

How are you doing?????

zuki

I'm doing great, Jim...just a bit nervous about next week.

I think you'll like "Mama Blue"...she's never visited my neighborhood, so I'm relying on your assessment.

Ian

I'll put it this way........the S900 & Traynor K4 combo has made in 2 gigs yesterday more then what I paid for them both pieces already so the rest now is all gravy so to speak..........

As far as my opinions on them is 3 fold....I, love, dislike, & hate different areas of my new acquired gear as follows.......

The S900 Sounds fantastic, its actually a Mini T2 / 3k in a sleeker designed package, loading, editing, tweaking was all done exactly the same, they have included many of the SA sounds (not all) to keep you excited in each category of sounds.....many of the styles are re-tweaked and sound wonderful also, I was happy with the overall sound. The K4 really surprised me and had NO problem filling the room and producing a great clear distinct sound which IMO rivaled my previous Two Mackie Srm 450's in a different way. The Mackies are very LOUD and being they are only a TWO-WAY Powered PA system alot of the sound emanating from the keyboard styles & sounds plus my vocals gets MUDDLED in the mix & is not clear and separated as was the case with the Traynor K4 which is a 5 Speaker stereo system.....this translates in a much clearer sound which can really show off the different frequencies and as a result your Vocals Sear thru.....& when I played a lead be it a Piano, organ, guitar, growl sax etc it CUTS thru the mix and really gives you an awesome sound to show off all the parts being played from Low to High. When I went out in the audience in the back of the room & there were almost 200 people there having the K4 in the Tilted 45 angled Position to let the sound reflect of the ceiling I cold not believe the fantastic way this amp covers a room without being abusive in that there wasn't that too loud "IN YOUR FACE" projection which annoys the closer tables.........also no matter where you went even in the restrooms which are thru the hall way and way in the rear of the building I was able to hear the music fine all the way back there. Best part I dont have to carry 2 srm 450's & 2 stands anymore either

Now for the dislikes......S900, The Vocal harmonizer is terrible ....& in no way is even in the same league Even major tweaking the parameters in the same pro caliber as the TC Helicon, Roland G70, or Digitec units. Yamaha has really faltered in regard on any of their arrangers unit & I have had them all....I hope in the future they can really step up & include a Pro Quality Vocal harmonizer unit inside... Display is too low its a bit hard of an angle to see even with the adjustment knob, without a slight lift to the back of the keyboard....same lightweight spongy plastic keys no change from the 3k,

I hate the REAR Mic & Pedal input locations which are in the center of the unit.....when You use a APEX KB stand the center pole is directly blocking theses inputs....this in turn makes you have to PULL OUT the KB a few inches toward you for plug access ....very bad design on Yamaha's part for sure these should all be to one side like the Pa800.

Im sure I'll think of more as I go along....but for now Im a happy camper


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Hey, Fran...the Electro is great...using it on all my jobs. Using the SH-201 on a film score this week-end. The GW-7 is permanently installed over an MS-60 on one of my house jobs.

I'll also use the Midjay I got from Don on the film score I'm working on. Be working straight through until next Friday at Noon (deadline) on a film, with score for an automobile manufacturer. Got to do it...that's how I can afford new toys.

Gotta love the new toys...!


Russ

I've been using a Yamaha CP-300 digital piano for the past week to satisfy my piano yearnings.

Absolutely awesome...best hammer action in the business...Pianos and Electric pianos are incredible...nice long sustains with no looping glitches.

Has all the toys for acoustic piano realism... String Resonance (harmonic overtones), Stereo Sustain (open strings while pedaling), and even Key-Off Samples (recordings of felt dampers coming to rest on vibrating piano strings) --

The B-3 emulation is pretty good too, but not as good as the Nord C1 or the Hammond Xk-1....and the action is too heavy for real organ playing, but it's fine for laying down pads.

It's not an arranger, but it would make a great controller for one...unfortunately it's HEAVY...71 lbs heavy...so, for now it's a studio/practise instrument until I can get a lighter DP with the same quality sounds and action.


Ian

DNJ,
I'm not looking to start trouble and I really am interested in why you went back to the yammie. You sounded so happy with the korg you almost had me convinced. And I'm sure you at least peaked the interest of more than a few others here.
Was it the OS? like going home again?
Or did I miss something along the line.

Mike I can play & perform with any arranger on the market as I have done having so many models.......the PA800 is by far the closest thing on the market to being the Perfect Live Performance Arranger KB for sure....it has so many quality PRO features that are in many ways superior and well thought out by its designers....yes it has some faults like they all do ....but its more of a PERSONAL NEEDS issue versus anything wrong with the keyboard. Lets face it we are living in a high tech age of electronic marvels that really supercedes anything just a few short years ago in regards to instruments.....If I had to say anything it would be that Korg needs to provide much more in the styles department there simply isnt enough available for MY Needs......that's something that Yamaha, Ketron, Roland, have in their favor bar none....I like Korg styles very much with their 16 bar loops and just the way the progress thru variations with very cool dynamic changes throughout etc, etc, .....I miss that & I miss the excellent TC Helicon vocal harmonizer alot too BIG TIME! . I'll be OK for now, but be assured I have my eyes open for the next WAVE of KB arrangers to come to market of which I am very optimistic & excited that this next time we will be very happy with what we are gonna see in the arranger world for sure!!



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I've had very little time to demo the E-60, but what I've tried and seen I like very much. It is much simpler to operate than the g70. There are less styles, but the smart cards can hold infinite amount of styles and songs. There is no harmonizer, which is the only bummer about the E-60. The key feel is good, better than the Yamahas I've owned, but certainly not equal to the g70.

It is a pleasure to play. The styles are so symathetic to live playing and they sound so good. The speaker volume could be louder, but it is adequate for a small room. Except for a possible upgrade in this model, I don't think I'll be looking at/for anything else for some time.

Roland needs to promote the E's better. they are good keyboards but suffer from lack of exposure.

Cass how to the E60 Organs compare to your Hammond thats you just got?

Hi All, (especially DNJ)
I do not post too often here, but I remember posting the experience I had with 2 early defective S-900's. Then I decided to wait for sometime because I really liked the S-900's and I knew it was just a few bad early units. Then I started reading DNJs postings about the new, wonderful blue marvel, almost perfect, Korg PA800- and almost just based on his (your) excitment, I decided to order one. Well, today I really have to thank you DNJ. This is the BEST keybord I have ever owned (and I still have my SD1, which has been my best for years, only technology has advanced too much since the SD1 came out). Now, I just can't see myself or anybody else selling the PA800 to buy an S-900 alone. Believe me I still like the S-900 very much and it is one of the best out there, especially for the price. Actually I would love-and probably will in the future-get another one to have both. But selling my PA800?..only to buy a PA2Xpro and waiting to check the Audya I really do not understand. Now I have to say that I only play in church, and church related parties (weddings, sweet 15s, 16s, etc)and mainly latin music, frequently with a guitar/singer who really can work and perfectly coupe with my arranger music.
KEEP PLAYING AND ENJOYING YOUR ARRANGER WHATEVER THAT IS. In reality they are all great instruments, and I believe we only use a fraction of their potential.
Thank you,
Falberto.

The organs sound very good. None are sent through the rotor FX, so they need to be set up and saved if you want to use the Leslie sim. I could easily use the E-60 as my one board if I wasn't so anal about that darn XK-1. Both boards are keepers. All of the E-60 sounds are top drawer. The more I play it, the more I convince myself that I'll always need a 76/88 board of some type. As I said on another thread, I've bought & sold about 7-8 keyboards in the last year. The E-60 is definitely the best arranger for me (not the biggest, just the best). I won't be looking at/for anything else unless somebody comes out with a 76 with a good harmonizer.

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Cass your carrying the Hammond just for the organs & the E60 to gigs also.....or is the Hammond a home piece? ...

The Hammond is not just a home piece. When and where possible i hope to use bothe keyboards, but the E-60 is definitely good enough to handle my needs all by itself. Those organ sounds are very authentic and convincing. As I said, the Hammond is a vanity thing; it's something I just had to get at this time in my life. But believe me, the E-60 is an overlooked gem in the arranger market. Those 76 keys make a big difference for anyone who likes to play piano or use deep left hand bass. In arranger mode I can even give myself a little more or less right hand space as need - a nice convenience. I'm no pianist, but not a bad piano player. The 76 keys are good enough for me 99.99% of the time.

Cassp,
I just sent you the URL for a post George Kaye made for tweeking the onboard sound system in my E 80. It should work for you also if your E 60 is the same.
Check your gmail for my email.
Bebop

Thanks for the url, Bill. I printed it out and will give the speaker edits a try. And George, of course, is so great with all his helpful knowledge.

Hey, George. JimP says HI. This was his E-60 I purchased.

Cass the E-60 doesn't have the same settings as the E-80..You only have the bass enhancer on the E-60..

New Gear ah....not really...Found a couple of months ago a used good working Fender SFX200 which is doing an excellent job on the smaller gigs. (perfect match for a VR760)
Also found a used Twin and boy I'm really very happy to be back on a Twin again since years....Oh and I found a used Fishman Aura, which(although originally not meant to use it that way) turns any cheap acoustic in a Martin.

Fred

I changed my mind...

I'm going to buy a VIMA and a D-Deck.
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/014203.html
http://www.electone.com/article/?f=view&i=93
www.roland-vima.com/

Good night!

OK, I'll bite.

Bose PAS (Model 2) and 2 B1 subs, Tone match Engine.

*takes a deep breath*

Ok, well you guys know me (kinda) by now, and you probably realise I'll tell it like it is (yes...for me and MY reality etc etc) so here goes.

There's a lot of *ahem* "emotive discussion" when it comes to this system.

I don't see why.

It's a P.A. - not the second coming (as you might get the impression from almost all the Bose devotees.) You have to live with it & understand it, like any other piece of equipment.
I thought it would sound PERFECT out of the box.

It doesn't.

Nothing does.

Like any P.A. you have to learn it, tweak it, get used to it, and become "at one" with it to use it to it's fullest potential like ANY piece of gear.

I think the only people who would have a real problem with the Bose are:

a) People who don't like their own sound (the system is relatively transparent unless you pile on the effects on every channel) and challenges you to be a good singer and player as it really IS like holding up a "sonic mirror" to yourself and having a good look.

(Now please don't all fly into an indignant rage at that statement with all sorts of "well I'm quite happy with my sound & abilities & I still don't want a Bose" or "so are your saying we're not worthy to use the system" replies. I don't think I'm perfect either, I'm just giving a theory.
Most of the members on these boards seem quite decent players and performers so I don't think anyone here is "below par" - whatever the hell THAT means anyway!)


and

b) People who can't afford one (for WHATEVER reason).

I started off by saying this system is just a P.A. and doesn't sound perfect OOTB.

That's true - I'm trying to be real here.

The trouble is the more you read, (from Bose Marketing itself, and their devotees) the more you suspect if you actually buy a PAS and take it to the U.N. for a gig, World peace will finally be achieved.

So cutting through all the hype (and hopefully defusing a bunch of potentially unhelpful replies and "overly emotive opinions") I can say this -


It's great.
(yeah, yeah for ME)


We're never going back to conventional (& much heavier) equipment.

My ears don't hurt after gigs anymore.
We got our car back (room wise).
Audiences ACTUALLY DO go pretty nuts over the sound, and freak out when we point out what's making it.
Set up and tear down time is halved - and once we actually get used to it, probably "quartered".
The cases loosen up (apparently) - I feel weird even commenting on that, but it seems to be an issue for some reason - I LOVE the cases.

Guys, I really don't see who COULDN'T use this system unless you need to fill a Huge room (REALLY huge) or Stadiums.
Even THEN I'd use the PAS as a wonderful stage monitoring setup, and connect to whatever massive FOH system the aforementioned Huge room /Stadium has.

Will I think less of ANY of you for not using one?

Nup.

Please don't think less of me for using mine.

Glad your enjoying your Bose....I must be the only one to dump one of these systems & I stand by my opinions..........there is also another syndrome.....people spend $2500.00 on it and then even if they dont like for whatever reasons they will pretend they do to substantiate the high Cost which is a common practice with any purchase. If it satisfies your needs your doing good...

Enjoy!

hellboy44
So we'll see you at the next secret meeting of the Bose devotee group?

Seriously I'm glad you found something that works for you.
If I may ask do they have the 45 day trial where you are from? Did you buy it from Bose or from a local shop?

Hey Mike (thanks for all your help btw).

It's weird "Down Under", (I hate using that cliche...) because what happens is - you have to go to certain Music stores that are "Bose Distributors" and you give them the order, then they contact Bose on your behalf, and Bose deliver the Goods to the Store...weird.
(Actually it's most likely so Bose can control the price directly.)

The store had a loaner which we used for 3 gigs.
No real 45 day trial.
We made up our minds after the 2nd gig however, and are more sure than ever now.

Thanks for your reply Don, that's the sort of honest post I appreciate without anyone getting all steamed up about this topic - thank you.

Actually, your post reminded me about something I meant to mention in my first post - Price.

Down here it's $4885 (Aussie Dollars)

If I was to purchase a similar, conventional P.A. - let's take my old P.A. as an example...

12" Top Speakers $800-$1000 each [Total $1600-$2000]
15" Subwoofer [$2000] - For a good one, I don't skimp on Subs.
Mixing Desk (Small 4-6 Channel with FX) $500
Monitor/Foldback [$600)
Covers [$150-$200]

(Excuse the approximates, but they're certainly in the ballpark.)

TOTAL: $5300 (Max price from the above examples)

So, for me - $5300 (approx) vs $4885 (Exact).

Selling my old gear (which I'm about to do) may net me $1500 (conservative est) so I spent more in the region of $3500
(All costs Australian Dollars).

Like many of you, we're professionals, so good money spent on good equipment is good for business - I had no qualms about it.

Where it DOES become expensive is where you have a trio or full Band situation (4,5,6,7,8, or 9 piece) where say, for a 4-5 piece I would use at least 2 PAS systems with subs.

It's a big ask for a band to outlay that kind of money, because a conventional P.A. (like the one I described) should do an entire Band.

A couple of weeks ago, I bought two Behringer powered speakers. I wanted to use them, with a small mixer, at the club where I work, and then when I book other singles or duos in they could use the same system--no need to load and set up p.a. I was hesitant to leave my Bose system for others because it IS rather expensive and they wouldn't necessarily know how to set up and use it.
I was really surprised how good the speakers sounded (B212a). I took them to the club, set them up and used them for a week. HankB's trio also used them when they worked a weekend for me. We all agreed the sound was really good and it was working out as planned.
Then, I had a really crowded night. Tables were shoved up next to the band stand, even encroaching on the dance floor. Had to turn the volume up for music to reach the back of the room. People near me started complaining; my ears started ringing from the volume, since the speakers have to be behind me.
I realized the Bose was much better in this situation. If I hadn't known better, the new system would have been fine, it's just that the Bose offers benefits that traditional systems can't. Now, I will either return the Behringers, sell them, or keep them for backup or for suitable jobs.
I am still very much impressed with them. They are light, powerful and sound very good.
As Hellboy said, the Bose isn't perfect, but it is perfect for some situations.
Most situations maybe.
DonM

I just recently purchase the new Korg M3 Synth as an upgrade to the Triton Extreme that I owned. Yuk! I didn't like the Pianos at all. Also, it was very thin on Programs and Combinations as compared to other synths.

so now I wait for the New Roland Fantom G7 to ship to see what that's like. It will be my first Roland Synth.

And I'm also sitting on the sidelines waiting to see how our members get along with the new Korg Pa2xpro. I may sell my trusty Tyros 2 and get the Pa2xpro. It all depends on how Stephenm does with his; LOL


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http://www.arrangerworld.com


Tyros 2, Yamaha P-250, Korg Triton Extreme 76, Roland VK8-M, DW Collectors Series Drums, Roland SPD-S.

LOL, Al I'll be sure to let you know.
The bad news the distributor was out of stock and I won't have it for at least 2 weeks.

Sorry, I'm well aware I've MORE than said my peace in this thread.
Can I just add/correct/clarify something? (my bad).

The Bose DOESN'T sound Perfect - Out of the Box - but I should've explained myself better.

What I really meant to say (or more accurately, add) was that unless the user is familiar with Gain Structure you won't use the system to it's fullest potential. I've already improved the sound IMMENSELY since our first gigs (and let me tell ya it was NOT that bad to begin with!!) and I'm confident that I will have it sounding perfect (for our needs) VERY soon.

Please don't get the impression the sound quality is in question with this system, it's seriously more a case of the USER knowing how to USE the system - and this particular user ain't that bright!!!

Steve,

So now there will be two of us waiting for the UPS man? LOL I thought Frankie had one at his store? He sold it already? Wow.

Al

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Al Giordano
http://www.arrangerworld.com


Tyros 2, Yamaha P-250, Korg Triton Extreme 76, Roland VK8-M, DW Collectors Series Drums, Roland SPD-S.

Hi Hellboy,
Just wanted to ask where you were able to get a loaner system from to try them? If I recall your website you are in Queensland? I am interested in the system as well. Everything I have read, system specs, peoples reviews, points toward a great and easy to use PA.
Would you mind letting me know? I am on far south coast of NSW so maybe your store wouldn't be able to help, but if I can quote a name of a store that allows a demo, to one closer to me they might be more willing to offer a trial. Its a lot to spend without a "hands-on"
Cheers,
Dennis

Al, I was going to force my wife to drive me to his store this past Saturday.(can't drive yet due to the surgery) He had 1 on order, Korg told him it would be delivered to him this past Friday. I guess when it wasn't delivered Frank called Korg, they informed him it was on back order.

Dennis,

I got a loaner (for at least a week) from MUSICLAB in Brisbane (Bowen Hills).

Just signed a piece of paper with my license and was good to go.

What would help you more is the fact that Billy Hydes also are Bose distributors and have good connections with Musiclink (based in Melbourne) who are the ones everyone really have to deal with.

The only reason I didn't buy it from Billy's is they required a $1000 deposit (on your Credit Card) that's refundable should you not like the system of course.

Musiclab did it all for free....

Give your nearest Billy Hydes a call - especially if you have room on your Credit Card.

I definitely think you'll find SOMEWHERE that is willing to Try-before-you-Buy.

Here's a Bose dealer locator Link.
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.bose.com.au/site/index.aspx%3Fpath%3Dsupport/Dealer_Locator&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNEEDMrcn0ItACMASQs8eY8P3Pbnhg

(sorry, hope that works - otherwise try Bose.com.au

Dennis,

I got a loaner (for at least a week) from MUSICLAB in Brisbane (Bowen Hills).

Just signed a piece of paper with my license and was good to go.

What would help you more is the fact that Billy Hydes also are Bose distributors and have good connections with Musiclink (based in Melbourne) who are the ones everyone really have to deal with.

The only reason I didn't buy it from Billy's is they required a $1000 deposit (on your Credit Card) that's refundable should you not like the system of course.

Musiclab did it all for free....

Give your nearest Billy Hydes a call - especially if you have room on your Credit Card.

I definitely think you'll find SOMEWHERE that is willing to Try-before-you-Buy.

Here's a Bose dealer locator Link.
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.bose.com.au/site/index.aspx%3Fpath%3Dsupport/Dealer_Locator&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=2&usg=AFQjCNEEDMrcn0ItACMASQs8eY8P3Pbnhg

(sorry, hope that works - otherwise try Bose.com.au

Thanks m8, will give that a go. I reckon that Billy Hydes is the way to go, just as long as they dont blame you for a scratch and then not refund the $'s
Cheers
Dennis

Edited for a PS

Hellboy I just used the link..Is the one tower really enough?? I play usually clubs/pubs from 75 ppl up to about 300ppl...


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You're a solo act right?

Just get 2 subs and you'll be fine.

You CAN get away with one, but it's nice to have the extra headroom and richer tone - you don't HAVE to turn it up, and of course you have the option to just bring one sub with smaller venues.

I operate on the principal that I'd rather have something and not need it, then not have something and need it...err or something like that!

Please feel free to ask anymore questions either publicly or via email before, during or after your gigs.

Wow, Steve. Your braver than me.

I could NEVER force my wife to do anything.

As a matter of fact, in 2004 when I had knee surgery, after getting home from the hospital, instead of going to the Pharmacy to get my prescription pain killers she instead went to a Parent/Teacher conference for one of my kids and blew off getting me my pain meds!! I had to go through the night with Tylenol!

Al






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Al Giordano
http://www.arrangerworld.com


Tyros 2, Yamaha P-250, Korg Triton Extreme 76, Roland VK8-M, DW Collectors Series Drums, Roland SPD-S.

Isn't there a song that goes "WHOOOO DO YOU LOVE?" Sounds like she answered that question for you.

chas

Al, I let you in on a secret I never married until 42 years of age. Talk about wanting to be sure!! Maybe I should be that careful buying keyboards.

Thanks Hellboy, I will..Yes I am a solo... The L1 system looks like it comes with a sub in the pics on the website, you don't think its enough? I do have additional subs and amps, but I was sorta hoping the L1 would allow me to do away with them.
Also just the one tower array?? Does it have a big enough sound to cover the room in your experience so far?
Thanks again, its a lot of money and I need to be sure, probably even before I arrange a demo.
Cheers
Dennis

It's funny Dennis, you're experiencing all the emotions/questions I asked MYSELF before we tried out the system.

1. God, is this little skinny thing ENOUGH?
2. Will it fill a whole room??
3. Should I bring a back-up P.A. system???

lol

Look, we're a Duo that play Leagues Clubs, RSL's, Surf Clubs (some pretty decent size venues) and for the TWO of us there's PLENTY of power.

Here's the thing:

All the stuff I read on the Bose Forums (you REALLY should go and have a read of those forums btw - a fabulous, valuable, interesting, friendly, practical place) is actually true. It's a different kind of loud .

It doesn't HURT anyone if they get too close.
There are NO hotspots - the sound is even EVERYWHERE you go in the room.
The clarity is crystal.
You WILL run too loud at first, because you'll be used to a conventional P.A.
(WE'RE still running too loud at some gigs)

You have to get used to this concept.
It's a scaled down Line array (Basically) NOT a point source speaker.

There was a "discussion" about this in the "Bose L1 Model 2 cases" thread (which I deliberately kept away from) which was comparing a point source speaker to the Bose.

Apples and Oranges.


Mate, there's plenty of power. The most I have ever run the system (I estimate) was at 5 out of 10.

Here's a quick run down on what you MUST be careful of:

1. GAIN STAGING - this system, more than ANY other P.A. I have worked with needs the Gain and level settings carefully sound checked.
Basically it's recommended that you turn the Power Base Master Volume to 12 o'clock. Then you set the trim on the T1 (the ToneMatch engine - mixing desk - you ARE getting that aren't you? - I certainly would!) speak/sing into the Mike/play your instrument at PERFORMANCE level.
Trim each channel until you get some red - then back off slightly.
When you're happy with that, set the sound level (knob below Trim) for each channel.
Then (especially if it's a big room) set the Power base level to maybe 8 or 9 out of 10. Quite frankly I have ours running at 10 - no problems yet. Then set the Master sound level on the T1 (Mixer).

2. About PLACEMENT: Place the tower behind you at LEAST 7 feet away (Bose says 7-8 feet). Remember, if it's too loud for you, then it's probably too loud for the audience, because it's NOT a point source speaker.
You do NOT have to crank this thing to reach the back of the room like a conventional speaker - seriously.
If you can't place it behind you due to lack of depth of the stage area (we often have that problem) you can set it up slightly in front of you (Maybe slightly to the side so you're not obscured by the tower) - you CAN use this as a traditional FOH speaker placement wise. You WILL hear very well (including vocals) and still not need a monitor.

Get to the venue as early as you can and set up - you will only need to do this a few times at the most before you get it.

(We also set the Bose up at home and played around - I highly recommend that).

We made up our minds after the 2nd gig.
We didn't buy the system and pretend to justify the money spent, as other people suggest most Bose owners do.

We had the option to bring it back - no money spent and stick with our old P.A.

Ours is NOT going back.

I just purchased a mint condition as in brand new..20 year old Roland Keyboard Cube 100..this will be my 4th one..I am probably the only person in the world with 4 of these great amps...I love them..Now I can blow out more windows..

Congrats Fran.....
amazing how good these units sound.....especialy when coupled with the G70 & they look sooooooo goood!



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Actually Fran, I have a buddy, Danny J. who has 6 of them...he uses them for his keyboards, acoustic guitar, and guitar synth.

He also has a G70, a VK8 organ plus a vintage Roland Jupiter 8 that I used to own PLUS a vintage ROLAND GR-700 synth and G-707 guitar controller

He's an even bigger Roland fan than you...he still plays a bit but mostly uses them at home.



Ian

You men there is a Bigger Roland Fan then Fran? ......
it must be nice to be "In Love" ( sigh )

Thanks Hellboy,
That is excellent information, exactly what a forum is supposed to be about.
I appreciate you taking the time to pass on that knowledge.
I will get on to, probably Billy Hydes, and see what sort of deal they can do, and get one down here to try.
Cheers
Dennis

Ian... I am shocked!

You let a Jupiter 8 go?? WOW!

Any remorse for that decision? I think the Jupiter 8 was possibly the finest analog polysynth ever made, and I wish I could afford a mint condition one now, but they got too expensive...

Yes Diki, I did let it go...and yes, sometimes I do regret it...it was in great shape, too.

Nothing, absolutely nothing sounded like that instrument...mine didn't have the MIDI retrofit, but it did have the newer D/A converter board that made the tuning more stable plus it had the DCB....Danny is looking for an old MC8 microcomposer for it.

I did pick up a old module, a Roland MKS-80 Rev.4, sometimes people called it the "Super Jupiter"...it's in being serviced, trying to get the display working...may need a new one...actually my Yamaha techie is working on it.

It has the MPG-80 programmer with it so I'm not missing much...and it has analog VCOs...AND, most importantly, it responds to velocity and aftertouch, something the JP-8 wouldn't do...no effects, though.

Got it really cheap so it's worth fixing up.

I also have a hard line on a Roland JX-10 that's being sold in an estate settlement...one of my clients put me onto it...supposedly mint condition, home studio use only...it has 76 keys, so I may use it for a controller for the MKS-80.

That as far as my gear lust goes...thankfully it's not one of those "mortal sins".

Ian the Sinner

The rock and new wave sound of the early 80's was almost defined by that one synth. From Journey to Human League, it almost ruled the airwaves...

And no MIDI, so most of what you hear it doing was actually PLAYED. It did have the DCB, but most of the rockers at least had not yet embraced letting a machine do it for you!

Great memories...

JX8P came close, I got one after trading in my 3P. Had the programmers too. Sold em along with the stage 73 Dyno.

Sorry, but if you think so, you never played a J8..!

PHAT, phat, fat!

sorry , but i did and they were close close close

Let us know what you think after you have tried it out.

Ian ...6 of the old Keyboard Cube 100'.? I have 6 counted the Cube 60's..

BTW:In the late 80's , early 90's..I sold an MKS80 "Super Jupiter" to the musical director[I think it was Mike McKnight], for Mariah Carey's band use..

While the JP8 really is an awesome synth the JX8P is pretty damned good. I still have one in good working condition with the PG300 programmer plus I have another that stopped working that I am keeping for parts in case I need them. I haven't heard any virtual analog synth that even comes close to the tone it has.


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Ian ..tell your buddy to move over...I have seven Roland Cubes now..