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#226105 - 02/04/08 02:21 PM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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I do hope you get something, Gary...you must miss playing...I know you got the old Hammond, but it you and I both know it ain't the same.

Yeah, I know what you mean by the new one in...well, let's just say it won't be perfect either, though it may be perfect for you.

Ian
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#226106 - 02/04/08 02:36 PM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
Trust me, guys, this is not just a Yamaha issue.

From day 1 I have said the G70 (and probably all the other Roland's, they all look like the same screen angle was used) needs it's screen tilted up just a little.

Who is designing these thing... Vikings?! If you sit at a natural, piano correct stance, you need to lean in to get the best angle on the display. Time to start using some REAL pianists to design this ergonomic stuff, not the stoop shouldered, hunched up techno-geeks they obviously have working in the design and R&D sweatshops...

BTW, this is NOT me agreeing with Donny (before he flames me for it!)... It must be tough if you can't even RECOGNIZE when someone is agreeing with you. But, then again, just because one is paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T all out to get you, eh?
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#226107 - 02/04/08 03:09 PM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
miden Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Sure, it's not perfect, but neither are the PA-800, G-70, E-80, E-60 and Tyros2...


But Ian as you know the T2 and the Pa2x (not to mention the original Tyros) have a fully tilting adjustable screen. Makes it very easy for those performers relying on screen information.
Of course you are correct about the other stuff though!!
Dennis

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#226108 - 02/04/08 03:15 PM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by miden:
But Ian as you know the T2 and the Pa2x (not to mention the original Tyros) have a fully tilting adjustable screen. Makes it very easy for those performers relying on screen information.
Of course you are correct about the other stuff though!!
Dennis


Of course, you're right, Dennis...I was mainly responding to Jedi's (Gary) other issues with the S900.

All arrangers, at the very least mid and TOTL, should have some sort of screen adjustment.

Ian
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#226109 - 02/04/08 03:18 PM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
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I stand and play - but when I sit to practice, it is definitely hard to see. I took it over my brother's house and his first comment was "you can't see the screen - weird".
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#226110 - 02/04/08 07:17 PM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
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Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:

All arrangers, at the very least mid and TOTL, should have some sort of screen adjustment.
Ian


Like my technics kn1000 and kn6000
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#226111 - 02/04/08 07:58 PM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
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Originally posted by zuki:
I stand and play - but when I sit to practice, it is definitely hard to see. I took it over my brother's house and his first comment was "you can't see the screen - weird".



I just cant understand what they were thinking....& who gave the final OK brfore production?

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#226112 - 02/05/08 01:42 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
trident Offline
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Registered: 08/22/04
Posts: 1457
Loc: Athens, Greece
It probably doubles as an exercise machine, you have to play standing up, burn more calories.!!!

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#226113 - 02/05/08 05:30 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
jwyvern Offline
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Registered: 09/06/06
Posts: 365
Like Gary (travelin' easy),
I have a tilt mechanism at the back of my Ty2.
It's a 2x2" wooden batten
Not for the screen (it tilts already) but I find the slight angle more comfortable for playing.

I'm a home player. I'd have thought you guys with all your fancy stands would already be able to angle your KB's every whichway you want. It seems like a necessary feature for any KB with a fixed screen because there are always going to be some players who find it "wrong" out of the box.
Maybe the stand manufacturers need lobbying too - lol!
Does the 3K screen tilt or is it fixed and "OK"?

John

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#226114 - 02/05/08 05:48 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by jwyvern:
Does the 3K screen tilt or is it fixed and "OK"?

John



Hi John,

The PSR-3000's screen is fixed and I find it is not as easy to read as my S900's.

I sit when I play and use a double brace X-stand at the same height for both instruments.

On another note, I'm enjoying your terrific piano sound....so nice to be able to adjust the tone with the mod wheel.

By the way, I modified the Live! Grand for playing Jazz Ballads...simple adjustment...just went to MIXING CONSOLE...FILTER and turned the BRIGHTNESS down to 52...sounds nice and mellow.

Ian
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