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#227065 - 02/16/08 07:52 PM Re: FS Traynor K4 KB Amp
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Maybe the peace of mind that Donny gets from upgrading is worth a few bucks in "trial" expenses. Some people buy lotto tickets, others play slot machines, still others piss away their money at the bar during the gig. (yeah, yeah..I said the G word) It's all in how you rate the cost of entertainment. I, for one, can be very entertained at the casino spending no more than $20 or $20 dollars. That's it! That's all I need to spend.If I win a little - great, if I don't, then I've PAID for entertainment value.

Donny doesn't get hurt too bad in the long run. What he losses on one, he makes up for on another. It's a bigger mistake to keep an expensive instrument that isn't right for your needs than to cut bait and move on, right?

Donny's fickle with gear, but he's got a heart of gold, and I know if I need someone to watch my back - he's there. Make yourself a few good friends like that in a lifetime, and you'll be a successful man!
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#227066 - 02/16/08 08:36 PM Re: FS Traynor K4 KB Amp
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
60 pounds--NO FREAKIN' WAY!

Gary

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#227067 - 02/16/08 09:59 PM Re: FS Traynor K4 KB Amp
Lucky2Bhere Offline
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Registered: 03/04/06
Posts: 533
My own personal opinion is that one should spend more time practicing their music than buying and selling their equipment since a competent musician could make most average keyboards sound good anyway. Beyond a certain point the difference in entertainment value from various equipment becomes marginal.

This is NOT a reflection on Dnj. Just stating a "personal opinion. When you're given the gift of music, you have a responsibility to nurture it and use it to make the world a happier place. Not everyone has been blessed with the talent that we've all been given!

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#227068 - 02/17/08 12:13 PM Re: FS Traynor K4 KB Amp
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
Maybe the peace of mind that Donny gets from upgrading is worth a few bucks in "trial" expenses.


But I don't see ANY 'peace of mind' from this upgrading odyssey. It's been over a year now since he ditched his much loved (and evangelized) PSR3k. Since then, he's gone through just about every major arranger there is. And every time it's this bipolar "This thing is amazing... You all should get one of these... You are idiots if you don't get one of these... Oh, sorry, it's for sale... I hate it...". Rinse and repeat.

That doesn't sound like a search for peace of mind. That sounds like a cry for intervention! Perhaps a call to AAA (Arranger Addicts Anonymous) might help? Friends don't let friends constantly audition and BUY new arrangers...

Now, you all know I'm just KIDDING, here, don't you?

I'm just curious to see what Donny has to say about all these arrangers the second (or third!) time he buys one. It might be fun to compare it to his first reviews, and see if history does indeed repeat itself...
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#227069 - 02/17/08 02:37 PM Re: FS Traynor K4 KB Amp
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
Donny's going through a 'nice' period, right now, and I, for one, am going to let sleeping dogs lie..........to the extent that I can .

chas


Just teasing, Donny; please don't wake up.
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#227070 - 02/18/08 05:59 AM Re: FS Traynor K4 KB Amp
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 3748
Loc: Motown
Sorry. I was not being nice, so I edited myself.

[This message has been edited by cassp (edited 02-18-2008).]
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#227071 - 02/18/08 06:03 AM Re: FS Traynor K4 KB Amp
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
It sounds like a great amp but the weight factor scares me off. A few years ago I inherited a 50 pound Peavy keyboard amp. I traded that in a hurry for a smaller Roland keyboard amp, that I still use at home.



[This message has been edited by Stephenm52 (edited 02-18-2008).]

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#227072 - 02/18/08 06:05 AM Re: FS Traynor K4 KB Amp
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
Sorry double post

[This message has been edited by Stephenm52 (edited 02-18-2008).]

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#227073 - 02/18/08 07:45 AM Re: FS Traynor K4 KB Amp
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
I remember the days when Donny was using a pair of Barbetta Sona 32-Cs, which sounded fantastic. They punched out lots of power at 450-watts RMS and only weigh 36.5 pounds. If I had to have full stereo, I would give them serious consideration.

Sona 32 Specifications:

Description:


Active, Bi-amplified Two-Way System.

Type of System:


Full Range, Active PA Cabinet™.

Total Power:


450 Watts.

Woofers:


15 inch, 50 Oz. Magnet.

Woofer Amplifier:


High Slew-rate, Class “A” Gain Stage,
Active Control Technology™ (Patented.)

Voice Coil: 2 Inch, 2 layer Copper.

Tweeter: 4 x 10 Inch Constant Directivity Horn.

Tweeter Amplifier: High bandwidth, Class AB, MultiLoop™ Control System (Patented.)

Cabinet construction:Litebox™ Lightweight Cabinet Structure. (Patent Pending.)

Cabinet Finish:Polypropylene Felt Carpet.

Input Section, "L" Version:


Balanced Line Input with Dual Sensivity and Active Fader.

Input Section,
"C" Version:
Four ¼ inch TRS Balanced Line with Individual Faders,Balanced MIC Pre-Amp.

Controls and Outputs;
"C" Version:
Global 3-Band EQ, Master Fader, Effect Loop, XLR Output.

Crossover Point: 2330 Hz.

Signal Processing:Exclusive MosPath™ FET Signal Path.

Amplifier Type:High Speed Bi-Polar.

Amplifier Cooling:Internally Mounted Fan. (Patent Pending.)
Amplifier Power, Woofer:300 Watts RMS Peak.

Amplifier Power, Tweeter:150 Watts RMS peak.

Weight:36 ½ Pounds.

Dimensions:17 x 14 x 21 Inches.

List Price, "C" version:$899 List. (Typical Street Price Range: $659 - $749)*
List Price, "L" version:$849 List. (Typical Street Price Range: $629 - $719)*

Stage Cabinets have wide dispersion bullet tweeters. PA Systems have controlled spersion long throw horns. Barbetta products with a "C" in the model number have a multiple input combo pre-amp with channel gain and global EQ. Models with an "L" in the model number have a single balanced input channel with dual sensitivity and active fader.

Gary

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#227074 - 02/18/08 07:58 AM Re: FS Traynor K4 KB Amp
Bernie9 Offline
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
First of all, I am with UD. I consider Donny my friend. He has always been right there for me. As far as equipment is conscerned, it is none of my business how much gear he buys. I am not much better, but consider the fact that Donny is a working pro, and I know music quality is extremely important to him, as it is to me. As he has said many times, keyboards and like equipment are merely machines.

In other words, they are just tools to attain the best sound possible for him. He buys a keyboard and very enthusiastically explores it, hoping that he has found the Holy Grail. Since we all know it is mighty elusive, chances are it is going to happen again. The bottom line is that he leaves no stone unturned. Besides that, he lways gives a good review. Even if the review contains subjective elements, it is bound to be informative.

I have purchased a Kn7000, a PA800, a Bose PAS, and Roland CM30's, due in part to Uncle Dave and Donny. I wouldn't sell any of them.

Bernie
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