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#227320 - 02/18/08 09:24 AM Help With Performances
hammer Offline
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Registered: 01/27/08
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Wow! I have finally started to work out the accomp matches for my gig books - I want to save some performances I found to the songbook - is that possible?

One other thing - I upgraded my OS to V3.01 and reloaded the music resouces file which seemed to change everything.

Makes me think the previous owner deleted a lot of stuff - sure glad I did that because I really like this keyboard and it's sound.
Excited and have lots of work to do today.

Hammer

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#227321 - 02/18/08 09:25 AM Re: Help With Performances
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Registered: 09/20/02
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Sorry for the stupid question, but what board do you have?

zuki
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#227322 - 02/18/08 09:26 AM Re: Help With Performances
Dnj Offline
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You should always do a factory reset when aquiring a used KB & start from scratch.

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#227323 - 02/18/08 09:29 AM Re: Help With Performances
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Registered: 01/27/08
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Sorry - I have the PA1X - got excited about the possibilities here. I almost got rid of this keyboard before I discovered a lot of it neatest features. I just read in the manual that I can save a performance with a new name but it sure would be neat if I could save that performance in a custum songbook.

Hammer

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#227324 - 02/18/08 10:34 AM Re: Help With Performances
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
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Hi Hammer,

If it's like the PA800, you can certainly save a new performance (song?) in a custom songbook (name the list whatever). Not sure if the songbook is the same.

If it is, you just have to make your changes and then start with the edit 1 page. It will walk you through the parameters. Then go to edit 2 page to save it to a custom location.

MAKE SURE THE ENABLE EDIT IS MARKED UNDER THE DROPDOWN MENU or else you'll be scratching your heads for hours like I did

Next, hit songbook and you'll see your new title there.

Hightlight it and hit 'send to list'

Then go back to your edit list page and hightlight that song and hit 'save'

Now you must make sure the custom list is updated by saving the changes, in effect a revised custom list.

When I wanted to edit that song, I just went back to edit 1 & 2 screens and named the song version 2, etc. That way you can erase the previous versions.

I believe every song you do that way will remain in your master songbook (annoying to me), but you can always redo the music resources and I believe your custom list will still be there (but not 100% certain).

It is a bit strange, but easy once you figure it out. In fact, I liked it a lot.

Hope this helps and good luck.

zuki
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#227325 - 02/18/08 10:37 AM Re: Help With Performances
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
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Hammer, I not a Korg expert and I may be missing something, but why don't you just save everything to the Songbook? I could be off base and there may be a better way but that's what I do.

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#227326 - 02/18/08 10:42 AM Re: Help With Performances
hammer Offline
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Registered: 01/27/08
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Loc: Texas
Stephen and Zuki,
First thanks - really helps. I want to save my setups to the songbook and have been able to do that with styles - really very easy to do. I am now going through every one of the performances and have found a lot I can use - was trying to save them also to the songbook but could never make it happen - it always asked me to save it in a performance location. I will try Zuki's approach and see what happens.

Thanks again
Hammer

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#227327 - 02/18/08 01:27 PM Re: Help With Performances
hammer Offline
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Registered: 01/27/08
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Loc: Texas
Ok, I must be missing something - I picked out a performance and saved it to the Songbook but option to add it to a custom list is not available for it. I wonder if performances can't be saved to a custom list. Anyone out there please jump in here if you know better.

Thanks,
Hammer

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#227328 - 02/18/08 01:30 PM Re: Help With Performances
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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hammer.....

It is very easy to build a personal songbook fast:

1) Select the style you want to use. Set up the four STS's if you can't use the default ones. Do any necessary modifications to tempo, transpose, volume, eq, balance, effects etc just as you would be doing it live.

2) Go to Book Edit Page 1. Fill out the fields (Genre, Artist, Key etc.) Make sure that you check marks in the following boxes:
Write Current Resource
Write STS
All Current Style STS

3) If necessary make further changes on Book Edit Page 2. Give the song an unique "Song Selection Number" (301, 302, 303,...).

4) Press Write

Do 1) to 4) for a number of styles. Now you can put these styles into a custom song book that only shows your own styles:

5) Make sure that "Enable Book Edit" is activated from the menu in the upper right corner.

6) Go to List Edit and press New List.

7) Go to the main Book page and press Add To List for you own entries.

8) Finally go back to the List Edit page and save the list.

You can choose which list that is shown on the Custom List page. You can continue adding more entries to your custom list by repeating 1-8 above, just do the following instead of 6)

6) Select your own list on the Custom list page.

This might seem complicated at first but is actually quite logical when you have done it a few times. And the custom list feature also allow you to have the same song in several lists, i.e. Sleigh Ride could be both in "Donny's Songs" and in "Christmas Songs".

Unfortunately I have no experience with the vocalizer, since I use the audio inputs for my GEM RP-X sound module - soon to be replaced with a SonicCell

Make sure that you check out page 297 in the manual. It contains a lot of shortcuts that will really help you in a live setting.

It is also important that you understand how "locks" works to get transpose etc. to work like you want it. Go to Global/General Controls/Locks. If an item is locked it will not change when you select a new songbook entry, style or performance. It will always retain the value of performance 1 (Grand Piano eXp). If you want another locked value just modify performance 1 and overwrite it. If you don't want the value to be locked you should open the lock in Global/General Controls/Locks and then do a Write Globals from the menu in the upper right corner.

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#227329 - 02/18/08 01:33 PM Re: Help With Performances
hammer Offline
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Registered: 01/27/08
Posts: 2403
Loc: Texas
Hi Donny,

Thanks for the info - very helpful. I am trying to put performances into the songbook - works just great - what seems to be a problem is getting the performance from the songbook into a custom list - that is where I am totally lost.

Hammer

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