http://www.korg.co.uk/products/professional_arranger/pa588/pa_pa588.asp

lookin' good.

Eww ,,, ugly speaker grills. I prefer the way the PA800 has them blended in to the body.

I think it's a great niche keyboard. For someone who really needs or wants a piano keyboard, this baby even provides great arranger features. It may be heavy at 51 lbs., but those who tote around 88's to solo or combo gigs are already used to the size and weight.

As for looks, it looks a lot better than...

me.

Not bad...at least it's not blue.

Looks like it got hit by an ugly stick
Bebop

Tyros 2 is ugly but everybody bought it

That's why I didn't buy the Tyros2...too many sharp corners and edges...big clunky buttons...radical styling doesn't always work.

The S900, on the other hand, is a paragon of good taste and restraint.

The T3 will look a lot like the S900...

The PA-588 at least looks cool...in a 60's Sci-fi sort of way....damn sight better than the PA-800/500...they look like something from Fisher-Price.

Ian

At least the Korg Songbook & TC Helicon VOC offset Blue color vs the KaZoo like UNusable Vocalizer & non Transpose saving MFD on Yamaha.....

I agree on you T2 defunct design assessments though

If Yamaha will just improve & add those two things I for one will be onboard.

Yes Donny, I agree...the Tyros2(and S900) don't have the equal of the Korg's vocal processor.

Hopefully, the Tyros3 (and new S-series)will have an improved VP.

Ian

Ian I think its time they step up in the VP dept & MFD needs Improvement also.They already have the sounds & styles locked up.

Its a shame I have to use a external VP like the new TC Harmony4 when the S900 has a VHP on board Argggg! More stuff to lug & plug in



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 03-22-2008).]

Why ask for ANYTHING from Yamaha..? They dominate sales, so obviously, nothing YOU need is of any concern. Take what they hand out like manna and be grateful..!

Yamaha see no need for a better harmonizer. You've all been buying the same shitty one since the 3k or prior (not even improved for the T2), so what does that tell them...? Plus, in fairness, they have no decent harmonizer in ANY of their products, so where are they going to get one from? They are FAR to big and important a company to license one like Korg have...

You all have been howling for a decent harmonizer for three generations of arrangers. Why do you think Yamaha, of all people, are willing to listen now..? It's all very well to pooh-pooh calls for Yamaha to respond to the need for a 76, because YOU don't personally need one. Well, how do you like them now, when they don't respond to a need you think they SHOULD?

'Home' players don't need a professional harmonizer, any more than they need a 76 keyboard, so don't anyone hold their breaths!

Well Diki....of course you are right...BUT Yamaha does have fantastic sounds & styles if nothing else....so there lies the BIG problem of Choice & Settling for LESS or use Another brand arranger that's not as good BUT has more at least usable features that YOU NEED for you purposes & you'll live with....or mix a few pieces of gear together to achieve some sought of happiness also.....
its a balancing act that never ends..
your own tolerance is the key.
"Perfect" in ONE PACKAGE so far doesn't exist in the arranger world.

Diki...you're just another critic...nothing more.

Criticize all you want...Yamaha will listen to you just about as much as Roland has on it's forum...and they will do what they want, not because of your tireless tirades, but because they think it's best for them...and that's the only reason.

A critic is like a eunuch...they can tell you how it's done, but....

Ian

Well, EXCUSE ME....

My mistake for offering ANYTHING to criticize about Yamaha.

By the way, are you implying that ALL of us that offer criticism of Yamaha products are eunuchs, or is it just me? (because I remember a few well voiced gripes, yourself, Ian)

Of course, by inference, you are saying that all who PRAISE Yamaha are also eunuchs, because, if they take no notice of fora like this one, praise has an equal effectiveness. Do you feel your voices getting higher as you read...?

Didn't think so.

Me neither.

My post was directed at you...no one else.

Still thirsty, eh?

Ian

Ah.... so there IS a good reason to criticize the market leader.

But I shouldn't be the one to make it...

That makes sense

Judging by how little you know about the market...I'd say that it does make a lot sense.

Ian

So everything you own and use is made by the market leader of it's product? No...?

So PERHAPS you also recognize that the 'market leader' isn't always the right product for you. Nor even the best product made.

Come on, Ian. You can do better than this. Go back to questioning my manhood. It was funnier

Diki...I wouldn't make fun of your manhood...I'm sure you're insecure enough about already.

Ian

OK, I get it now. The 'eunuch' comment was meant figuratively.

How clever of you!

I am an ant, in your Brobdignagian footprint...

(Never argue with a Canadian. They've got nothing better to do!)

I wouldn't say "clever"..."accurate" would be a better description.

Ian

Can we stop attacking each other?

Diki went over first(bashing Yammy or Ian? I dunno )but Ian came up with "eunuch" thing so I don't know who deserves the blame.

The facts are -Yammy's VH and hardware is not as good as Roland

Yammy's most styles and some sounds ,over all versatility as portable arranger for most western OMBs(price/performance ratio) is ahead of Roland , not to mention 3 rd party styles(Roland used to be good too).


so yes Yammy's mid and TOTL arranger sales are better than Roland.

Korg's WS sales are better than Yammy and Roland (at least before M3).


Peace.

Diki we need you for G70 in depth (more so than Fran).

Ian we also need a Yammy (insider or not) guy for many reasons.


Peace ,again.

BTW I still like PA 588 's look.



[This message has been edited by jamman (edited 03-23-2008).]

Jamman, no critics were harmed in the creation of these posts.

Diki and I were merely having a friendly banter...I think he's a great guy, and I always enjoy his posts, and even though he does get a tad overly enthusiastic sometimes with his criticisms...he bashes Roland and Korg with equal ebullience.

I could have used the word "unique" instead of "eunuch" but the former didn't have the same impotency as the latter.

I always enjoy your posts as well, and find your unbiased views quite refreshing.

Competition always improves the breed....no doubt about it...and this will be born out in the next crop of arrangers.

Ian

PS...I kinda like the appearance of the PA-588 as well...it's got a cool retro look about it.

"Diki we need you for G70 in depth (more so than Fran)."

My expertise is unsurpassed..

Have a nice holiday...everyone...

how wrong is this statement?

very, IMO.