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#229787 - 03/22/08 03:29 PM Re: Better picture of PA 588
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
Why ask for ANYTHING from Yamaha..? They dominate sales, so obviously, nothing YOU need is of any concern. Take what they hand out like manna and be grateful..!

Yamaha see no need for a better harmonizer. You've all been buying the same shitty one since the 3k or prior (not even improved for the T2), so what does that tell them...? Plus, in fairness, they have no decent harmonizer in ANY of their products, so where are they going to get one from? They are FAR to big and important a company to license one like Korg have...

You all have been howling for a decent harmonizer for three generations of arrangers. Why do you think Yamaha, of all people, are willing to listen now..? It's all very well to pooh-pooh calls for Yamaha to respond to the need for a 76, because YOU don't personally need one. Well, how do you like them now, when they don't respond to a need you think they SHOULD?

'Home' players don't need a professional harmonizer, any more than they need a 76 keyboard, so don't anyone hold their breaths!
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#229788 - 03/22/08 07:14 PM Re: Better picture of PA 588
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Well Diki....of course you are right...BUT Yamaha does have fantastic sounds & styles if nothing else....so there lies the BIG problem of Choice & Settling for LESS or use Another brand arranger that's not as good BUT has more at least usable features that YOU NEED for you purposes & you'll live with....or mix a few pieces of gear together to achieve some sought of happiness also.....
its a balancing act that never ends..
your own tolerance is the key.
"Perfect" in ONE PACKAGE so far doesn't exist in the arranger world.

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#229789 - 03/22/08 07:36 PM Re: Better picture of PA 588
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Why ask for ANYTHING from Yamaha..? They dominate sales, so obviously, nothing YOU need is of any concern. Take what they hand out like manna and be grateful..!

Yamaha see no need for a better harmonizer. You've all been buying the same shitty one since the 3k or prior (not even improved for the T2), so what does that tell them...? Plus, in fairness, they have no decent harmonizer in ANY of their products, so where are they going to get one from? They are FAR to big and important a company to license one like Korg have...

You all have been howling for a decent harmonizer for three generations of arrangers. Why do you think Yamaha, of all people, are willing to listen now..? It's all very well to pooh-pooh calls for Yamaha to respond to the need for a 76, because YOU don't personally need one. Well, how do you like them now, when they don't respond to a need you think they SHOULD?

'Home' players don't need a professional harmonizer, any more than they need a 76 keyboard, so don't anyone hold their breaths!


Diki...you're just another critic...nothing more.

Criticize all you want...Yamaha will listen to you just about as much as Roland has on it's forum...and they will do what they want, not because of your tireless tirades, but because they think it's best for them...and that's the only reason.

A critic is like a eunuch...they can tell you how it's done, but....

Ian
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#229790 - 03/22/08 08:48 PM Re: Better picture of PA 588
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
Well, EXCUSE ME....

My mistake for offering ANYTHING to criticize about Yamaha.

By the way, are you implying that ALL of us that offer criticism of Yamaha products are eunuchs, or is it just me? (because I remember a few well voiced gripes, yourself, Ian)

Of course, by inference, you are saying that all who PRAISE Yamaha are also eunuchs, because, if they take no notice of fora like this one, praise has an equal effectiveness. Do you feel your voices getting higher as you read...?

Didn't think so.

Me neither.
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#229791 - 03/22/08 08:54 PM Re: Better picture of PA 588
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
My post was directed at you...no one else.

Still thirsty, eh?

Ian
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#229792 - 03/22/08 08:59 PM Re: Better picture of PA 588
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
Ah.... so there IS a good reason to criticize the market leader.

But I shouldn't be the one to make it...

That makes sense
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#229793 - 03/22/08 09:03 PM Re: Better picture of PA 588
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Judging by how little you know about the market...I'd say that it does make a lot sense.

Ian
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#229794 - 03/22/08 09:11 PM Re: Better picture of PA 588
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
So everything you own and use is made by the market leader of it's product? No...?

So PERHAPS you also recognize that the 'market leader' isn't always the right product for you. Nor even the best product made.

Come on, Ian. You can do better than this. Go back to questioning my manhood. It was funnier
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#229795 - 03/22/08 09:19 PM Re: Better picture of PA 588
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Diki...I wouldn't make fun of your manhood...I'm sure you're insecure enough about already.

Ian
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#229796 - 03/22/08 09:35 PM Re: Better picture of PA 588
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
OK, I get it now. The 'eunuch' comment was meant figuratively.

How clever of you!

I am an ant, in your Brobdignagian footprint...

(Never argue with a Canadian. They've got nothing better to do!)
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