man are the "RUMORS" flying eh?

all in due time my friends......

And another thing:

Tyros 61 keys for £3700 and Tyros 88 keys for £3900. I no think so.

Haven't you all got it yet? Yamaha DON'T CARE ONE IOTA if you want a 76, and even less if you want an 88...

Go buy a PA2XPro, and save yourself the wait...

Your money means nothing to Yamaha. Spend it where it is appreciated!

Audya... sorry, but I predict a bugfest at first. This is a radical new technology, and you know what always happens on the first generation, don't you?

G80...? Someone (actually, everyone!) is asleep at the wheel at Roland. I have no idea if they have the personnel at Roland Arranger R&D to get anything radically different out the door, and the next G-series needs to be. It doesn't matter if it is 61 or 76, there is just such a chasm between the other big players (K&Y, primarily) and the Rolands, it's hard to see if they can compete.

Soundwise, there is MUCH to like, but the OS team have dozed off completely. They have a new OS for the E80. What does it add? Basic, barely useful mp3 playback. No markers, no transpose, no tempo changes. Whoop-te-do! They still have a sound second to none in the drums and piano/organ category. But the OS has actually got WORSE from the G1000 days in some critical areas. Nothing you can't work around (apart from the lack of Chord Sequencer), but NOT a good sign...

And still NO fix for a couple of really simple 'flag' problems, like ACC cutting off if you change chord recognition TYPES (go from Pianostyle to normal chord recognition, for instance) that should have been hotfixed LONG ago.

If you are waiting for a G80, I'd say take a good look at the G70 (if you haven't already). It IS a great 'player's' machine, but not a 'great' OMB tool. Or go get that PA2XPro, and save yourself either a LONG wait, or disappointment over another rushed to market Roland, that you'll never be sure they'll fix completely...

But forget about suggesting that I go get a Korg Despite me being unhappy AT Roland, I am still very happy WITH my Roland..! I just wish they'd finish it. So little left to do that I need to be happy, and they stumble just before the finish line.

Oh well...

Already bought the Korg Pa2xPro, thanks for the good advice

I'm glad you found the right instrument Steve...how is it working for you? You seem pretty content with it.

I can't get my hands on one to try...my local dealers won't carry them.

Ian

Ian I'm very content with the Pa2xPro. It's working out very well. The high points for me are 76 keys, songbook feature, vocal harmonizer, physical vertical sliders to make quick adjustments to voices on the fly. The low point lack of the multitude of 3rd party styles that are available for Yamaha.

I saw this posted on another site regarding Tyros3's Style Creator.

"The Style Creator will have an algorithm for creating more realistic guitar parts. The Tyros 3 will be smart enough to know that a D-chord is a different inversion than an A chord or E chord, for example. The user inputs chords and the T3 translates them to the correct notes and strings for a guitar (provided a guitar part is selected)".

Could be a rumour...or maybe not.

Ian

They have, have a look at the new Korg PA588.

Tyros 3

- 12.1 inch screen ( motorized )

- USB 2.0

- Slyders under the screen, not buttons
like on T2

- New Chip SuperArticulation 2

- Mp3 player

- will look more like the Tyros 1

That's all I got from a reliable source!

p.s. forget the 76 or 88 key version.

Hmmm, maybe motorized faders?