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#238390 - 07/17/08 05:29 PM Re: Korg Pa 800 - Harmonizer and SMF
miden Offline
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Thanks George,
Yes I think that pretty much all the arrangers adopt the channel 5/4 combination as the default on the keyboards.It seems to be the adopted defacto standard now.

I have seen a quite few SMF's (from other commercially licenced suppliers) that are all following this.

Strictly speaking, I probably shouldn't say it's part of the spec, but its just as easy to say it that way, rather than enter into long explanations which can make it a lot more confusing, particularly for beginners.

Dennis

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#238391 - 07/17/08 05:31 PM Re: Korg Pa 800 - Harmonizer and SMF
miden Offline
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Marco, what setting do you have the PA set up with? (on the harmoniser) and have you edited any of the presets, or are you using the default "factory setups" ?

Dennis

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#238392 - 07/17/08 05:42 PM Re: Korg Pa 800 - Harmonizer and SMF
musicm Offline
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I am using the default factory setups:

this is what I have on the keyboard:

on the GLOBAL: VOICE PROCESSOR SET UP: 01 DEFAULT
on the GLOBAL: VOICE PROCESSOR PRESET: 001 TC-HELICON
in the same window but on the HARMONY PAGE:
HARMONY OFF LATCH ON
HARMONY MODE: CHORD
PB Assign: off

I have never touched the above set up. It has been as it is since the first time I turned the keyboard on.


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Originally posted by miden:
Marco, what setting do you have the PA set up with? (on the harmoniser) and have you edited any of the presets, or are you using the default "factory setups" ?

Dennis

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#238393 - 07/17/08 07:02 PM Re: Korg Pa 800 - Harmonizer and SMF
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Go into menu/Midi settings (Not Global). Select Harmony track 5 for Tune 100 midi files or the one that is utilized for other midi files (Whatever that might be). If you use the drop down menu you can store in your permanent settings and will not have to change it again

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#238394 - 07/17/08 08:20 PM Re: Korg Pa 800 - Harmonizer and SMF
miden Offline
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Marco that is the correct default setup for harmony.

Okay we will go to the other area that needs to be set..

SONG MODE- MENU- PREFERENCES- This should then present a screen where you can set the harmony track.

Now, from memory (and its been a while since I used default settings!!) the last entry, HARMONY TRACK is by default set to GLOBAL.
This needs to be changed to the channel/track number of the harmony data.

In your case, assuming it is still the tune 1000 song, set this to channel 5.

Ensure the harmony button on the front panel is lit, and it should then produce harmony notes when you sing through the mic when the notes play on the track.

The GLOBAL setting is used when you want to create/play your own harmony ntoes from LIVE play on the keyboard, from the chord scanning area you select whislt playing a midi file.

In STYLE MODE this is done automatically.

Dennis

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#238395 - 07/17/08 08:22 PM Re: Korg Pa 800 - Harmonizer and SMF
miden Offline
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Sorry, just an addition to the above..If you press the dropdown menu (top right of screen) you can save this a sthe global song play setup. If you dont, and you dont create a songbook entry (whihc overides these settings) it will revert back to the default after you turn the PA off.

Dennis

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#238396 - 07/17/08 08:41 PM Re: Korg Pa 800 - Harmonizer and SMF
Caragabal Offline
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Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 320
Loc: Hobart Tasmania Australia
May I suggest if you are new to the pa800 you go to:- http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/en/support/tutorials.html?en
where there is a video tutorial.
I have viewed it and have found it helpful

Cousin ken

[This message has been edited by Caragabal (edited 07-17-2008).]

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#238397 - 07/17/08 09:07 PM Re: Korg Pa 800 - Harmonizer and SMF
miden Offline
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Thanks Ken .

I also suggested that in another thread, so hopefully we can drag Marco over there

Marco, it really is the place to go, all your questions have probably already been answered!!
Cheers
Dennis

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#238398 - 07/17/08 11:09 PM Re: Korg Pa 800 - Harmonizer and SMF
Uncle Dave Offline
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Fran's right. I never let a midi file trigger harmonies. That's the most fun I have all night is singing like the Four Freshman!

I have to do it myself, or I feel lazy.
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#238399 - 07/18/08 06:42 AM Re: Korg Pa 800 - Harmonizer and SMF
zuki Offline
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A different approach to utilizing the vocal harmonizer with smf:

Set up your midi file to a performance, using the split mode in arranger play. When you play the correct chords (I simply mute the LH), you can add harmony ANY TIME you want in the song. You can use whatever RH you want also - works like a charm. You don't have to use the stock harmonies provided by someone else.
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