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#239799 - 08/11/08 07:39 AM
Re: New Tyros 3 demo
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Senior Member
Registered: 11/25/00
Posts: 1211
Loc: Queretaro, Mexico
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Hi:
I am a regular performer in the Phoenix AZ area, 14-20+ jobs per month more or less, I use the T2, and of course I do NOT use the Clarinet Factory sound (among others), my T2 I have it loaded with TVN sounds that to MY ears are MUCH better that the built in sounds, and yes, my T2 takes about 4-5 minutes to booth up, because I also have to set up my PA system, I develop my own system, the first thing I plug in is the T2, turn it on, and then keep setting up the rest of the stuff, I also use a Korg PA800, so, by the time I finish the WHOLE set up, my T2 is ready and so am I to do my sound check, then just wait to start. The clarinet sound TVN I use, is different than the "new" one, but, is not to bad at all. I have the habit to be in my job at least 1 1/2 hours BEFORE the job begins (for the last 39 years), and if I do have 2 or 3 jobs in one day, I make sure I have plenty of time. By the way, the new T3 demo is also showcasing the New IDC 20's Swing 78RPM style.
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#239801 - 08/11/08 03:40 PM
Re: New Tyros 3 demo
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Senior Member
Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
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It's better, but needless to say, Yamaha has NOT nailed it thus far. Something is missing and that something, in my opinion, is the 'substance' of the real instrument. It's like Yamaha is giving you the outer shell of the instruments sound (even though that sound, admittedly, is pretty good) but leaving out the most important part or aspect, which is the 'meat','grit', or perhaps more appropriately the 'substance' of the real thing. I agree though that it is MUCHO better than what is on the T2 or, for that matter, the T1. It's also nice to know that Yamaha is continually advancing their voice architecture; and hopefully one day to the point that you will not be able to distinguish, in Yamaha's case - a Voice, from that of the real thing. More than likely it will not be based on any sampled instrument sound but on a 'yet to be realized' software 'modeled' instrument sound i.e. Virtual Instrument (VSTi). Furthermore, I believe one day all of our keyboard instruments will be based on VSTi's (in other words software modeled sounds) instead of the current 'Sampled' based approach we now have in "most" of our keyboards currently on the market. PS: It's about time Yamaha finally put up a decent demo for their new Flagship eh?.. Best, Mike
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#239803 - 08/11/08 04:43 PM
Re: New Tyros 3 demo
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
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Yep, gotta give it up for the clarinet on this one...
For all those out there less than blown away, how about some URL's to demos of arranger clarinets you think sound better?
Once again, though, although you can criticize the basic tone of a patch (just as you can criticize one REAL clarinet player's tone over another - it's not as if they all sound the same, out there!), the SA technology NAILS how the instrument transitions from one note to the next, something that nothing else gets right. If you are into phrasing, rather than just playing notes...
The main thing I'm looking out for, in a new Tyros, is... can you use the SA voices as part of a style, yet? It seems to be a waste to have such incredible voices, but you can ONLY play them live...
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