I heard that Yamaha is going to release extra voice packs for Tyros 3 very soon.Is this voice pack contains SA2 voices and extra draw bars sounds that can be adjusted with the sliders?

Sunny

The only one I have heard is a voice pack with great vocal pads...ahhs oohss and the like,

I have heard there will be an organ pack as well.

Kingfrog and Ian,
Is there any possibility of loading extra SA2 voices in Tyros3 if Yamaha release them in future? What is this "Organ" pack?are they extra organ flutes to be controlled by sliders?

Sunny


[This message has been edited by sunny152 (edited 10-17-2008).]

Drums, drums, drums...

What's the #1 sonic criticism of the Tyros? The drums.

Yamaha need to address this LONG before these 'gimmick' sounds. Big, punchy, dynamic drums...

From what people have posted here and other forums. The drums have improved a lot. What is the problem with the T3 drums?

From what OTHER people have posted here and elsewhere, not apparently a whole LOT of improvement, though.

Many styles sound like the same drums, but just pumped in the mix a bit...

How about a drum pack to replace the substandard drums on the T3?

IM sure they are coming. I really took issues with expensive keyboards that were released with mediocre voices only to sell $300 Expansion packs with the voices they SHOULD have put on the units. Roland was one of the worst offenders as was EMU. IM hoping Voice packs on the T3 will enhance the already nice voices.

Chony, I read why you bought the Tyros3, but it sure sounds like you're not really happy with it.

I still don't have any expansion boards in my G70...

Look its better than the T2 so I bought it. But not much better. It's really a basic update. Even the sliders are a joke. You literally can't use them for anything useful except for the organ. For example I want to assign one slider to accompaniment drum volume. It can't be done!!! I mean that's basic stuff...

G70.... the sliders do everything. Live part mixer vol, pan, chor and reverb. Style Parts, ditto. SMF parts, ditto (plus mutes), voice editing (filters, LFO's etc.).

I can't believe Yamaha missed this basic opportunity.

The sliders on the Tyros3 will do the same...just go to the relative mixer page.

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The sliders are better than oon the Korg in build quality and they do far more than Chony (who apparently had Yamah piss in his Cherios at one time) would lead one to believe.

Dig a little Deeper....

Learn how to use it or sell the keyboard Chony. Your whining and bashing is getting old. And to pay $3000+ for five SA2 instruments seems rather a stretch of logic as well.

Sell it . Its an easy sell.

ITs not the end all of Arrangers, but believe it or not some actually prefer it over the Roland and yes even the PA2x....HArd to understand I know, But just accept it and move on.

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Thats the mark of a good sounding keyboard to the owner. I am referring to those packs that ADD something the keyboard does not already have.....not better sounds of what is already in the board.

This may seem like a rather naive question, Chony, but why would you spend so much money without at least trying the keyboard out and dicovering it might not suit your needs.

If you did try it out, then the less than satisfactory drums(your opinion)and sliders(again, your opinion)would have been immediately obvious.

What gives buddy?

Ian

He already answered that question ...basically 5 SA voices....Thats about $700 a voice. Could have bought a screaming notebook with VSTi's that could have reached that goal and more. Lot less to carry around with the PA2x as well....

So he already tried it out before he bought it?

Ian the Curious

This is good news, for a minute I thought what was Yamaha thinking, Ian thanks for clarifying that!

Yes Steve...they perform the same functions as the up/down buttons...the display will remember the last mixer function you were on when you press Mixing Console again(after you've returned to the main display page)

They also work very well with the organ flutes...not exactly like clicky drawbars, but very smooth and accurate...no wobble, and you can grab a bunch at a time to shape the sound.

Ian

In following Ians reply Chony....why give up on a KORG Pa2x which is definitly more professionaly feature packed for the gigging musician then Tyros1,2,or3?

Yea What gives ?

Why aren't you using one, Donny?

You're a professional gigging musician aren't you?

What gives, buddy?

Ian

Yikes... getting hot in here

Has the economy hit the price of Valium, already...?

I think that's why Donny plays naked....

I just hope there's no mix up between the Valium and the Viagra.

We could be up against some stiff competition.

Ian

Wow, a brand spanking new keyboard with all new sounds and SA2 articulations and they are already looking for new sounds in a Voice Pack???

I don't get it?

What's missing from the T3?

Also, to address the slider issues on the T3, what good is going into the Tyros 3 Mixer and then using the sliders??? The Pa2 just let's you press a button to use sliders for various functionality. Yamaha's implementation sort of defeats the purpose doesn't it?

The sliders on the new T3 are not really well implemented. Yes, you can adjust the volume of any voice part, whether in the right hand, left hand, style or midi. BUT, you can only do so by going into mixer and all these parts are on different pages.

This is no where near as good as the Korg sliders. My pa1X allows me to use the sliders to adjust upper 1, 2 and 3 along with the style bass, drums and percussion all easily at your finger tips without paging through menus. On my new T3, you can never be on a page that will allow you to adjust all those parameters all together.

These are the volumes you need to control the most. But, if you are on the mixer page to control R1,2 or 3, you can not control any parts of the style volume from that page. You must change to a different page in the mixer to get to the style volume parts for the sliders to control. And, that has to be done with repeated button pushes, You can not cycle back and forth between the two pages easily and directly. The Mixing Console Panel Part (R1, 2 and 3) is follwed by the Mixing Console Style Part (style volumes) but it follows with Mixing Console Song Channel parts 1-8 and then Mixing Console Song Channel 9-16. So you have to do a lot of button pushing to cycle thorugh all four pages.

When you are on the Mixing Console page, you can not see what voices are being used for the R1,2 and 3 parts. You wouldn't want to change the OTS while on the Mixing page or you have no idea what R1 will come up (unless you check it out in advance).

All of the Yamaha sliders should be made so they can be assignable to any part, if you wish, and they will hold that assignment. That's how the Korg sliders work and they are much more useful. The T3 has only one slider that is assignable and there are only about 10 things that you can assign to it. For me, none of them are really very useful. It can be assigned as follows: Off, Keyboard Volume, Harmony Volume, Song Volume, MultiPad Volume, Hard Disk Player Volume, Mic Volume, Mic Reverb Depth, and Vocal Harmony Balance. So even the assignable slider can not be permanently assigned to say, drums. I think Yamaha could vastly improve this.

Tom G.