Diki

Let me try answering your question in a format you'll understand better (based on the thread above).

The AUDYA will be able to play back all chord types currently played back by the current Ketron line up (e.g SD5), regardless of style selected which means, yes including the audio loops associated with the styles. Unfortunately, I can't disclose on a forum how we do this.

Winter Namm 2009 in Anaheim CA/USA is what I was refering to.

Hope this answered your questions.

Thanks,

AJ

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LOL.... well, thanks AJ.

That clears it up PERFECTLY

I guess the extra YEAR to production was so that all those dozens upon dozens of different chord variations and extensions the SD-5 can recognize could be recorded for each and every style... (in three different tempos, for all twelve keys)

From your very guarded statement, somehow, I doubt it...

I doubt that Ketron will be the failure that some of you hope or predict. Every board that they have release was always better then the last one, with noticeable differences. I’m glad that they have decided to hold the board to further test then releasing it. I would prefer that they be the Ginny pigs than the customer.

There is always option number 1, don’t buy it if you don’t like it. Well my Mom told also how you know that you don’t like it if you haven’t tried it…………


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Or option #2, believe all the hype, and buy it sight unseen (because there won't be one in a store anywhere near you)...

Guess which of the two options leaves you more likely to be disappointed?

Wish MY Mom would buy one for me to try, though! Just in case I liked it

Well there is FrankieV place in Conn, which is only 1 hour drive from me, so don't worry I'll get my hands on one and try it before I bash it.

Besides stick with your G70 its better anyway. Ketron will never live up to your standards since your pianist that you are.

I live in the Panhandle of Florida. A few more miles away from Frankie V's than you, sadly. As are probably the majority of US players.

Look, there's hype, then there's reality. When this product was first announced, it was going to have multiple audio loop tracks. We were all astounded. This is going to change EVERYTHING...

Fast forward from March 2007 (when it was first announced)... Only ONE non-drum loop part, and obviously, some hybrid tricks to coax more chords out of the loop parts than were originally recorded. Not exactly what we were hyped into thinking we would get. And the price continues to climb, every time it is mentioned.

All I've been asking for is straightforward answers about legitimate concerns, garnered from years of working with loops in a computer environment. And still no straightforward answers. I don't want the product to fail. Far from it. I want the product to be what was initially announced.

Time will tell how successful (and how expensive) this arranger will be. And, since they are going with a 76 and a grand piano sound that they claim is amazing (and the audio demos bore it out to a degree), this will definitely be on my 'check it out' list. OTOH, since you apparently don't consider this important, I guess you'll be giving it a pass?

I've been anxiously awaiting the arrival of the "Audya" but am growing weary of the delays. I'm afraid the price of the keyboard is going to be too much for me.

I'm into recording with DigiDesign's Pro Tools. There is currently a plug in from Celemony http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=products_plugin
That you should check out. It's a technology that allows you to adjust the pitch and timing of audio tracks. In it's current version it can handle single monophonic recorded melody lines. If you go to the Celemony website, you can view a demo of the application. Celemony announced an upcoming upgrade of the application that would allow adjustment of pitch and time polyphonically. In other words, you can adjust/alter pitches of notes individually within, for example, a guitar chord. This upgrade was to be released this October 2008. October came and went and now the projected release date is for March or April of 2009. I suspect that Keytron is using this technology to make the Audya work as planned. A delay at Celemony means a delay in the release of the Audya. What do you think? Does this sound reasonable?

This is simply food for discussion.

No, I think I can pretty much guarantee that this is nothing to do with the Audya delay.

The Melodyne2 process is NOT a realtime function. It takes time to analyze the file, and then it takes time to process the file. On even the fastest current computers, Melodyne's own demo shows it takes several seconds to process a very short file. So this rules it out for current arranger operation, where the CPU has got to do a whole bunch of other things, all at the same time... (and couldn't do it realtime even if it WEREN'T)

Maybe in a few year's time, when CPU horsepower and speed ramp up another power of magnitude or two, but right now, even Melodyne can't make this realtime...

Thanks for the update AJ!

Winter NAMM 2009 is a little over 2 months away and if the Audya is currently in the final stages of fine tuning then Ketron "should" be able to meet its obligation of a Winter NAMM release date.

A few questions if I may AJ. Will it be possible for the Audya to incorporate "new" audio Styles developed by Ketron or other third parties? First, would there be enough OS flash memory overhead on the Audya to allow the loading of new audio Styles into the Audya? If so, could the new audio Styles be loaded into the factory "preset" Style memory area or would they need to be loaded into a custom "User" memory section or Hard Drive section of the keyboard? Also, would new audio Styles be necessarily much of a concern as far as data size goes? In other words, would an audio style take up that much room to begin with within the OS memory area or Hard Drive e.g. only kilobytes in size or more like megabytes in size for each audio style? If it would be possible to load in new audio Styles how much would Ketron consider selling them for, or would they consider giving the audio Styles for free to Audya owners like Korg does with the PA series (although Korg only uses midi data styles NOT audio styles of course).

The Audya WILL be flash ROM up-datable right? What other goodies is Ketron considering throwing in with the purchase of an Audya? There are also some online retail outlets (some brick and mortar stores too) that have 'special' bundle prices they offer with the Yamaha Tyros3 (onboard speakers system, Stand, Foot Pedal, soft carrying case), etc. for a lower price than could be gotten if each item was purchased separately. A two or three year extended warranty from Ketron on an Audya would go a long way in drawing in more customers to purchase the Audya too in my opinion. With such a "high" street price Ketron may want to consider sweetening the deal somewhat with the purchase of an Audya, especially in this global economic finanical market meltdown we're currently experiencing.

Thanks again for filling us in with a few more pieces of the "puzzle" concerning the Audya and of its release to the public AJ. Everything you can tell us is really appreciated.

Best,
Mike