The Korg just seems to have a lot of additional features that the Yamaha OS has.

I do still think the total layout of the Yamaha is more user friendly and more simple but then again im sure what ever instrument you use, you get use to so maybe in time i will find the Korg extremely easy...

I cant wait to get my Korg!!!

Nick G,
Once you get some experience on the Korg...you will see a wealth of features and flexibility.

I have had both, both have advantages...but the Korg is NOT hard to use and IF you read the manual, and I mean read it cover to cover...you wil see lots of cool capabilities...very PRO level!

You could download it right now and resd it??

And the 76 key keybed of the PA2XPRO is truely great feel and response. I don't know abut the PA800, but I heard the keybed is very nice too. I know you wanted 61 keys.

Lee



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Hi Nick,
something additional that might be worth considering is the EC5 pedal. 5 foot switches that can be programmed to trigger fills, variations, all sorts of stuff. Frees up the hands.

Don't know if you're into style programming? but guitar mode is brilliant for creating guitar tracks.
A single note can create strums , up, down, etc , even inserts fret noises automatically.

Korg also supports multiple time signatures ie you can have a 3/4 variation, a 4/4 variation & multiple tempo's in the same style. Great for medley type style.

Copy function is great. You can even copy a multipad into a style track & vice versa, create a multipad from style tracks.

There are 14 settings for fills as to what you want them to do ie fill 1 goes to v1 or v2 or a self fill etc etc . You can basically set them up for a style.

There's a drum remap function, that alters the drum track in a style ie you may have bass, snare, hihats etc playing, you choose one of the remap options & instead you'll have bass, rimshot & hihats playing.
Just alters the style slightly.

It's a pretty amazing keyboard.

best wishes
Rikki

Rikki,

This is something I would love to see on the Yamaha arrangers...as it is, we can do it with a program by Jørgen Sørensen, but it would be nice to have it right on the instrument.

Does the PA800 support half bar fills? What about the PA2XPRO?

That's another very handy feature, which I believe is already on the Roland arrangers....great for tunes with a 2/4 measure in a 4/4 time signature.

Ian

Hi Ian,
I know, where would we be without Jorgen's program's. I never really got round to using that one for my psr. A lot of the time I actually used One Man Band with my Clavinova. OMB also supported multiple time signatures.

You've lost me on the half bar fills??
If it's something that can be done by having a different time signature & tempo to the rest of the style, then yes , I think it could be created as part of a user style.? But if you're talking about a dedicated function, then , not as far as I'm aware.


best wishes
Rikki
Rikki

Ian
Yes...you can start the fill anytime in the bar...IF the setting for the fills CUE MODE it set to immdiate. Simple to change if needed. If CUE MODE is set to next bar, then no matter where you hit the fill key...it starts fresh on the next bar.

The only real bugaboo is that there is not a spcificfill for each VAR...so on some styles the fill sounds better on only some VARS vs Yamaha has a fill (autofill) on each VAR...but, if I understand correctly it always starts at the next bar, so you really don't have just a fill by itself that can be used anywhere in the bar.

Both have advantages and disadvantages IMHO.

Lee

Hi Lee and Rikki,

Here is what I mean for half bar fill...this is taken from the G70 manual Pg.63.

"Half Bar on Fill In—The ASSIGN SW button allows you
to switch the Half Bar function on and off. Certain pop
songs in 4/4 contain bars that only last two beats. The
usual place for such a bar is between the first and the
second verse. Another favorite position for “halved” bars
is at the end of a chorus or the bridge. Your G-70 allows
you to faithfully reproduce these “anomalies” using this
function. This does not change Style playback right
away. Only when a Fill-In starts will the Half Bar function
be activated and play half the number of beats of
the fill you selected."

Does Korg have this feature on PA-series?

Ian

The immediate function on Korg's is just that... immediate. So you MUST hit the fill button with millisecond accuracy to not destroy the groove. Few can even play the keyboard with that degree of precision, yet alone leap off the keyboard, rush over to a fill button, hit it precisely on the beat and rush back to playing the next chord...

But perhaps those that report timing issues on some Korg styles have those styles set to 'immediate' and don't know it?

Hi Ian,
not aware of such a function on the korg.

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ianmcnll:
[B]Hi Lee and Rikki,

Team,

Just as they say "seeing is believing", this issue will be best explained by an example, so I will make an example of a style where ...
* User plays in Variation A.
* User presses fill on down-beat - Pa series will react well. (OK).
* User presses fill on up-beat (about .75 of a second after the down beat). You will then 'hear' how the fill appears to 'retrigger' the style. You will also hear how this could throw off someone on the dance floor. This situation (so far) cannot be replicated on Yamaha, Korg or Ketron (unless you press the retrigger/restart button) ~ regardless of when/where you press the fill, and regardless of style setting.

That being said, I agree ... all the other manufactures do have product issues of their own too (some more major to others than some). It boils down to which issues the end-user is capeable of 'living' with.

Thanks,

AJ

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