o h, by the way thanks for the thoughts and prayers guys. i'm sure it will be ok. i'll post the results on this thread.

May God Bless you and your Family. I know what your family is going through. I cannot imagine what you are going through. My wife had a bout three years ago and beat it. My Dad wasn't so lucky, at 78 he was diagnosed with ACL he wa He was in remission then caught a staph infection while in the Hospital with no white or red cells due to Chemo. He could not over come it.He still bowled but went down fast in three final days. We talked, He went to bed and woke up in a Coma July 21 and died 9am peacefully.

We don't hold the Hospital Responsible. It's Gods Will and it's not rare for someone to catch an infection in a Hospital. He was bowling two weeks before.And active three days before he passed. Not bad for 78.

But he taught me how to live....and die.Who could ask for more. He felt so bad for us because he knows what its like to lose a father and we did not. I understand now his concern. God Bless you.

I am a code monkey lol Most game developers don't have inhouse music and sound production as it is almost always outsourced to production houses nowadays ... unfortunately. Back in the 80s and early 90s I was involved in game music and sound but that stopped as projects became big budget and parts of the game development could be outsourced. Art, sound and music are obvious areas while the actual coding can't really be done like that.

And due to the big budgets that AAA games have now the production houses that are used are often Hollywood based and are the same ones used by the motion picture industry. The day of the small independant game composer/musician have generally passed on though smaller independant games may still offer a chance of breaking into that market.

Games like Saints Row2 and GTA pretty much just used licensed commercial music for the majority of music heard in the game. In fact games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band are generating more money for established artists than they can make nowadays with their own album sales. AeroSmith are an example of this having made a lot of money out of the special AeroSmith version of Guitar Hero.


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I agree with you about SR2 being the fun/comedy version of GTA. The fun factor and player customization beats GTA hands down. GTA on the other hand does have the edge on graphic presentation. But for me it is the gameplay and not particularly the graphics that make the game fun to play. While graphic polish is awesome at first that wears off very quickly.

I really like the story and characters in SR2 as well. The character scripting is really excellent. The co-op and multiplayer modes make it fun too. It's well worth having a look at if you get the chance.

I guess SR2 took around 3 years with most of the team being based in Illinois and a small group where I worked in California. Probably a total of up to 100 people. The overall cost of development would probably be between $20-30 million which is typical of a AAA game title nowadays on multiple platforms ( such as Xbox 360 and Sony PS3 ).
Also a game must be translated ( all speech and text ) for Spanish, French, Italian, German and Japanese versions which also takes some time and work. Testing a sandbox game also requires a lot of testing which really adds to the cost.

If you get to play the Sony PS3 version you can look me up in the credits lol ( Our group didn't work on the Xbox 360 version ).

( And here's a tip - in the higher Mayhem missions where you are simply trying to achieve a $ amount in senseless destruction nothing beats walking into a casino with a rocket launcher and plenty of ammo ).


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So Nigel, can you modify my copy of Tiger Woods golf so I can beat my wife. I'm willing to pay good money.



chas

-To compose,increase and play everyday my own musical repertoire.
-To teach music classes with kbds and acoustic guitar for my young students.
-Digital photos.
-My old cameras collection-
-To take care of my old Citroen 2cv, 1973, 100% mint.
-My four dogs:Zeus (Golden retriever)Pepeu (Daschund) Doroteya (Mini poodle) Sebastian (Schnauzer).

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Chico, LOVE my old cameras, including some old Kodak folders, Brownie box cameras (127), Rolli twin lenses (2 1/4"x2 1/4"), 4"x5" and 8"x10" view cameras, old press 4"x5"'s, Russian Hassy copies, Argus c-3's...even an original pinhole camera, plus Nikormats, F 2's and F 3's. Even my medium format's (Pentax 6x7's), which we used as recently as a year ago, are now in the antique category.

Believe it or not, we still use 4"x5" view cameras, only now we use a digital back connected to a computer with major memory for much studio work that requires parralax correction. Some single immages are approaching 80 meg (outdoor billboard images, large posters, big package art, etc.).


Got a little of everything! Lots of fun and good memories.


Russ

Russ ... is there ANYTHING you don't have a collection of ?!?!? ...Where do you KEEP all this stuff ?!?!? ...
uh ... forget the rest of it, where do you keep your collection of WOMEN???

t.

Tony, if I had a collection of women, I'd give all the other stuff up in a heartbeat.

Oh, wait a minute. I must have been reverting
to 1977 or so. Still "fire" at the pretty little things occasionally, but now it's like using an empty pistol...still aim it, but never intend for it to actually go off!


Russ "dateless and desperate" Lay


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hey guys,
barbs heart checked out ok. he still looking at what causing the problem. thanks for the kind words, thoughts and prayers.
dave