just wondering if Roland will be releasing any new arranger?

or will they just show us the GW-8 again ...

With the Tyros3 out and possibly AUDYA coming..
i hope Roland releases THE KING OF ALL ARRANGER...

i want kick ass authentic styles and sounds in a light well built package which is expandable, that's it..

oh, and no speakers on it please, that it so hobby/home like,

and don't care for harmonizer, vocal tuning etc, learn how to sing !!! :-)

Isn't it amusing that Roland releases models to everyone's surprise. Goes to show how much our know-it-all here on the forum really matters We basically get what they give. Tell me one time Roland has ever listened to anyone here.

I doubt that roland is coming out with anything to replace the G70 at namm. We would have heard something by now. When was the G70 released?

Don't assume

be patient.

1. zuki, that is not exactly true. while indeed roland user want alot and have many requests, roland did updated the G70' OS greatly, introducing many new features. compared with yamaha, roland is way better. they did listen.

2. leezone, let them put speakers on it. at least on next MOTL E series. i need them.

3. mc, they might or may not. they seem to be quite good at keeping a secret secret.

4. dnj, yeah, do not assume.

Curious...., "if" there's to be a replacement model what will it replace? The G-70 or the E-80...?

Hi Suki...It's a COMMON Marketing practice of releasing New Products, Both Yamaha and Roland in Their Pro Synth Line of products,etc at Winter and Summer Namm Shows in The US...Korg Has Been a little different,Releasing about anytime.
Both Roland and Yamaha are VERY secretive on New arrivals...Think about it.Example:Roland Introduced the Newest G Series Synth...After the New MotifSX series was released...Quickly Yamaha had to put out an New OS to Include some things the Roland was offering!
We see the same thing happening now with the Arrangers. Korg soon releasing the OS2 to compete with Yamaha Tyros mega-voicing,etc.
We all have to remember reguardless what Keyboard we play competion makes them better...I firmly believe the Big three Do listen to a degree...If not they would not release OS updates.
I also believe at THIS time they FAVOR the European and Eastern Market simply because Arrangers are Generally Used More for Public Music,etc and accepted so much better in general.
As for here in the US....We have a long ways to go.It may never change...Rolands Marketing is next to None and what we have is shameful at best...(Europe, it's a little better)...Your BIG online stores like Sweetwater.com promote arrangers as writting tools for Studio work,etc.
I guess the Best thing Maybe is to Play what We like Best and fulfills our needs...Put the Joy of Music in Peoples Lives(So many need it now)...And try to Earn some extra money(We all could use That)and last but least be Thankful for what we have!

Well, at least Roland don't start a big hype years before
we can see the goodies in the shop.
Silence may be better than the Ketron way (Audya), and who
knows, maybe no new Roland arranger, or even not any Audya
before we pass New Years Eve 2010 ........

Cheers
GJ

Yep, you are so right, Harold...it always does...when the competing stops, complacency enters, and we can't have that happening.

Ian

And what is wrong with learning how to use what we already have?....& making it sound better to your liking & also improve on one's playing skills vs hoping that a new KB will make someone sound any better.

enjoy what you play.

Good point Donny..., it's not the keyboard that gets old and dated as fast anymore. It's often the player reaches their limits.., and their own limitations (to them) become dated on the current keyboard they have. So to fix that.., get a new keyboard so that the same old.., sounds different to them. Then wash rinse and repeat.

If users took more time to explore the features of their current keyboards they'd save themselves a lot of money.

I am guessing they won't. Roland is not exactly going after that business especially in the US. The E60 is was released last year and can not be found at any major MI marketplace in the US.

Oh and as far as Harmonizers and learning to sing go....How does one create vocal harmonies with one Voice. I could be wrong don;t even think Caruso or Robert Plant could do that!!

I think Roland learned this lesson the hard way. Back in the day when I was selling them (early nineties) they were notorious for promoting the hell out of newly launched models and having no stock available to order (the U-220 and E-70 being memorable examples).

Spot on Squeak!!!

btw wish you were coming to the Arranger KB jam in Louisiana, January 18,19,20,21 man what a blast its gonna be, love to meet ya!!

I'd love to go, but won't be able to make it. I almost got out there to see you and Fran last month. I was going to travel over with my parents (who were going to take my grandmother) back home to Levittown to visit for a week. However, grandma has alzheimers and (again) backed out on the trip in the end.

I haven't been to Levittown since my grandfather died years back. Fun place..., spent a lot of my summers on Primrose Street, and much time at the school's playground around the corner, and pool down the street.

how do you create harmonies you ask?

easy, get some more singers in your band

or get a dedicated xox like that new Harmony M, i think it's called,

i think a keyboard should be a keyboard, not a vocal effects unit,

use the "vocal" money saved from not putting it in the keyboard and put in more memory onboard for better and more sounds

Depends of what customers/users who is the target. Arranger keyboard, or autocomp keyboards
as some prefer to call it, are perfect for "one man bands" or duos.
The more features put in it (usable of course), the less items to carry around.

Happy Playing
GJ

OK Squeak maybe another time ....
Fran & I had breakfast there yesterday ....we'll catch up down the road.
Meeting my long time friend Don M is my Dream come true I hope some more people will try to make it top teh Jam also gonna be something for sure!

how bout we add DVD, video playback so we can watch movies while we play...

popcorn maker....

and how bout we add a beer dispenser (tap) to the keyboard also... :-)

Drinking while you work is a big NO NO!

i do it all the time,
and eat good food...

built in sandwich press???

OS2, OS3... need I go on? There were fixes on OS2 in direct response (straight to the R&D team) to issues I found with the original OS that no-one else even mentioned.

However, I find it amusing that the one person on this forum that is SO resistant to doing anything about flaws in his own keyboard is so quick to deride those that succeed at improving their own (of course, with nothing but assumptions about whether that effort has had success or not).

Ignorance is bliss, eh, zuki?

Oh, and to clear up your other embarrassing blunder, I have never made any prediction about when, if, or what Roland are going to do. I leave that to the psychics here, and just concentrate on what can be done with the one I already have!

I like to speculate about what COULD be done, but I have never made any timeframe speculations, being content (to the most part) already. I can wait for a good one as long as it takes.

And what part of your post doesn't make YOU out to be a know-it-all, zuki? Or rather a not-know-it-all? Keep pointing that finger... there are three more pointing back!

Watch out!!! The guy with the axe is here..

More like a scalpel....

I love my E60 cash register

Cha cha ching...hear him sing.

Haven't you guys got Skype, or AIM...?

Nope....I wanted some peace and quiet, so I bought a phoneless cord.

Skype is only for the privledged

Skype name..... francis.carango

And yet, here you are disproving all that!

Is it too cold to go outsides up there yet?

Not at all...I always was able to find peace amid the storm.

Besides...it's all Donny's fault.

Contrary to popular belief, there are no Polar Bears in the streets...but that depends how much you've been drinking.

I agree with that and use one. I have not found any pre amp in a keyboard I would use live never mind the Harmonizer. The Yamaha is terrible, The Korg uses old TC technology.

Perhaps people use the built in ones, because that's all they want to spend? They aren't the best, undoubtedly, but probably the keyboard sounds aren't necessarily the best either.... But they are still making music

Interesting to hear those who condemn 'studio elitism' in others be so derisive of those with lesser gear than their own.

BTW, if the preamp in your arranger's harmonizer isn't up to spec, some of them have line-ins. Use the preamp in your mixer (if better!) or an outboard pre to bring the mike cleanly up to line level, THEN input to the harmonizer... maybe use some decent outboard compression, too

MediaStation has that covered...less the popcorn thing..

I'm still holding out for the MIDI espresso machine upgrade..