Originally posted by Diki:
Thanks, John... Very kind of you to do this.
To my ears, it reminds me a bit of the older Korg piano samples. There's a very pronounced quick decay of the initial sound, very 'spiky'. IMHO, the piano doesn't really 'sing', it sort of 'barks'.
Great for cutting through a mix, but it still doesn't give me the impression of sitting at a REAL grand.
Play this file, then the UltimateGrand from the FantomX at P.Creek. That's what I'm talking about...
Would you like me to submit this file to P.Creek, John, or will you do it yourself?I'd appreciate it if you could you submit it Diki, please. I had a look around on the site but the info doesn't exactly spring out, and any links didn't seem (to me) to lead anywhere in that respect.
Many thanks to those who commented. This piano voice has received a lot more attention because of expectations engendered by Yamaha when introducing Ty3, (and incidentally backed by what you see whenever you press the info button when the voice is loaded.)
Consequently it's surprising to me that it doesn't stack up more eg. exhibit more vibrancy on the one hand or a level of "warm refinement" (suitable for an English living room -lol!)that we might have expected.
Re cutting through the mix, yes it'll do that and I'll still use it occasionally for providing a different character (from the LiveGrand) in Jazz treatments of some songs.
The LiveGrand seems to have more presence in Ty3 than it had in Ty2 and can be made to sing more as you might want.
As suggested I've now uploaded that one as a comparison.
http://www.box.net/shared/aikeyqd9r1 Conditions are the same as with the ConcGrand, except I did Normalize the Audio (in the recorder on Ty3) The wave spikes are less prominent than with the ConcGrand and there was plenty of headroom to do it.
I prefer the Live Grand but don't use it at default settings (as the above is).
It has a bit more mid range EQ added, more noticeable reverb, and it's edited in the
PC software to exaggerate the stereo for a wider sound (lower notes progressively more to left, higher more to the right).
It can be mellowed down if needed by using the mod. wheel.
Together with a 4 speaker stereo x2 system it sounds as if there's a piano actually in the room- (like the sound of it or not)
John
[This message has been edited by jwyvern (edited 01-07-2009).]