OK, I'll email them...

Thanks for all the work.

Curious. None of the links on the site to email work.

I sent it anyway. I'll see if it comes back...

I hope they can continue this site. It would be a tragedy to lose the files.

BTW, yes, that Live Grand edit does seem to sing a bit better than the T2 version...

OK thanks on all counts Diki

John

PS just to be clear, the Ty3 LiveGrand voice was straight OOTB - just as the ConcGrand was, for direct comparison.


(I just mentioned the edited version which I use for my own purposes)
J

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Just as a side note, John, as long as the normalize function works correctly, it's a good thing to do to ANY recording. All it is supposed to do is find the highest peak in the piece, and then turn everything up until that JUST hits 0db (or on some software, any level below zero as well). So, in theory, you are not altering the file at all other than mere gain.

But it helps to take a look at the waveform in an editor (Audacity is a good free one) to make sure the process is not clipping anywhere. This will look like someone took a knife and sliced off the top of the waveform somewhere (you may have to zoom in a bit to see some). I never trust a function until I have double checked it...

Take a look at the un-normalized file too. Make sure that there is no clipping BEFORE the normalization process. How could this happen, you ask? Possible causes could be internal DSP effects being overloaded, and overall level higher than the D/A's can handle (though this should not happen in a good design, but massive EQ boosts might be able to make it happen).

Clipping doesn't ALWAYS happen at the main outs!

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jwyvern,
Thanks for that John.
The T1/T2 Live Grand which luckily Yamaha have kept on the T3, is without doubt a cleaner more even sound, although IMO still a little thin but much more usable than that Concert Grand thing on the T3 and as you say the Live Grand sounds more “live” on the T3.
As far as standing out in the mix the Live Grand sparkles, whereas the Concert Grand although it does cut through, doesn’t quite have the same presence.

It's such a shame because the new T3 Concert Grand piano could have been SO much better, after all the last octave C5 up is really very nice as is the lower register (very rich), it’s just such a shame about the rest of it.
I’ll also use it on occasions, but I find playing an octave higher where possible helps avoid that horrible mid range “Toy Piano” sound that I find so irksome.

Chris.

Still no T3 on P.Creek? Is this site still taking submissions? I submitted the file as well, and no response. I would like to know what you all think is the "best" piano performance on that site from a hardware instrument. Even among Arranger player, I doubt you can come up with a concensus (a challange). I would be happy to tweak the Concert Grand or even request a downloadable piano voice(no promises), if there was a concensus. Without a concensus, I have no idea what to try.

Regards,

Steve Deming