Roland does not use different piano samples in ONE sample. They do however use different sampled pianos on various instruments. Any Roland rep who says Roland uses multiple pianos on one sample is falling asleep in meetings and missed a few interoffice memos.

Just because a company makes acoustic pianos doesn't automatically make them "masters" of a digitally reproduced version. I think Yamaha's an excellent example. I actually like the sound of a REAL Yamaha acoustic grand, but IMO their digital sampled versions don't even sound like they come from their acoustic line. Even the new Motif XS piano is lacking IMO.

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With all the inconsistency between notes, it would hardly be surprising they sampled different pianos for each note.

Look, I'm not saying Yamaha makes a better digital piano sound than Roland...sound is very subjective and personal...but there is no denying the inconsistancy between notes that plague Roland DPs.

Sit down at one and try each note...you'll hear what I'm talking about.

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Ahhh... the manufacturer rep... The paragon of accurate information, and deep insider knowledge

I ALWAYS believe everything they say, don't you, Ian?

Just find ONE piano that sounds remotely like any Yamaha arranger sampled piano... and I'll show you a piano that ought to be condemned! No, I take that back... the Western is making a comeback. There's GOT to be a need for a bar-room tack piano sound in an arranger (I know there's one of those in a Yamaha, too, but I bet they use the same samples!)

Listen Ian, it's quite simple. You work at Yamaha dealers. Go play a CFIII, then play the S900... If you think there's ANY resemblance, it's not MY ears that need looking at

Wait until NAMM. Roland Piano division SHOULD have a bit of a revolution (or so I am told) as far as the structure of digital pianos goes.

And some big changes to the KR series pianos to do with their arranger side.

They may not release full details and specs, but the word I hear is they will.

Dennis

The best piano from Yamaha (at the lower end of the price scale) I heard was the one on the S90ES. Directly sampled from the Yamaha S700 Grand. S90es had 74mb of sample data JUST for that one piano.

Mind you the rest of the pianos were pretty ordinary.

Dennis

Have you tried playing the G70 and a Roland acoustic piano?

Good example Dennis.... The S90ES's piano was very much liked by many. Didn't Yamaha offer that particular sample as a download for the Motif XS too (due to how popular it was with S90 owners)?

My favorite is Grand Piano 1 in the Yamaha CP-300...stunning, and works terrific either solo or in a mix.

I've heard that as well Dennis...again, from my buddy, the Roland rep...he was also very evasive about a G70 replacement, but apparently the E-series will still continue.

Maybe it will include a 76 note model...the E-90 perhaps?

Straining just a bit hard, there, aren't you, Ian You can do better, mate!

But it IS telling how you pick a CP series piano, and NOT the T3 or S900, which you currently have...

Me, I'll take the G70 piano over anything... Just MIDI it to a wood 88 if you GOT to have the action and you're in business

After all, this IS an arranger forum, ain't it?