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#252751 - 01/06/09 04:51 PM Re: Wersi Rhythm Designer
squeak_D Offline
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You ever think Bill that maybe some people didn't have a chance to even read those posts or maybe missed them? You expect them to sift through hundreds of your posts looking for that one or two posts?
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#252752 - 01/06/09 04:54 PM Re: Wersi Rhythm Designer
Diki Offline


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Trust us, you can hear all the hitting going on... Little fielding, though

But where is your review of what you just posted? Isn't this something new? I'm sorry, but just as you don't probably know the minutiae of every G70 OS update, you can assume that most of us don't follow the Wersi saga any more carefully.

If I want to point out something new or recent on a G70, I don't expect everyone to go out and do a bunch of research just to understand a cryptic one line post. I make it easy for them, and actually TALK about the subject. Education by URL is a very lazy way to communicate, Bill.

This remains the General Arranger DISCUSSION forum, not simply a repository for URL's...

What do you think?

Give me one good reason why I should give a damn about anything you post about Wersi's if you are going to be so cantankerous?

(sound of the ball hit over the fence!)
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#252753 - 01/06/09 05:01 PM Re: Wersi Rhythm Designer
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Squeak

If I get no response I either post it again later, or refer to it in other threads.

In addition if you and few others look at the questions you have asked in other posts I have made, then you will find in most cases they were answered in the first post of the thread. (Which would seem to indicate that you and others cant be bothered to take the time to read them properly)

As I said, the ball is in your court

Bill

BTW; This is not the first time I have posted about the Rhythm Designer Software

[This message has been edited by abacus (edited 01-06-2009).]
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#252754 - 01/06/09 05:12 PM Re: Wersi Rhythm Designer
squeak_D Offline
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Bill what you don't seem to get is you constantly keep posting things about Wersi, but rarely offer your opinion about the topic you just freakin posted.., you then go on and on about how we should have read your review about this that and so on. Realize it or not Bill many of us have read your reviews. When you post a topic why don't YOU try telling us what you think about the topic YOU JUST FREAKIN POSTED.., instead of always telling us to got back and read this and that.
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#252755 - 01/06/09 05:14 PM Re: Wersi Rhythm Designer
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Yes Bill this isn't the first time you posted about this... You didn't say what YOU thought about it on that post either.
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/018789.html

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#252756 - 01/07/09 10:31 AM Re: Wersi Rhythm Designer
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: these à propos de rien Wersi posts are an elaborate practical joke. It's the only explanation.

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#252757 - 01/07/09 11:12 AM Re: Wersi Rhythm Designer
Ensnareyou Offline
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Registered: 03/31/02
Posts: 491
Loc: California
Quote:
Originally posted by Seamaster:
I think it's time Wersis were repositioned as entry level budget instruments. They're obviously just thrown together using generic components and shareware software so they should easily find a natural price point at which they can still find punters despite sounding like twenty year old Casiotones.


The Wersi sounds much better than you think and certainly its not some thrown together system of generic parts and shareware. I've owned many a Casio keyboard and never once have I heard a Casio come remotely close to the sound of my Abacus Duo Pro.

The audio card used to produce the Wersi sounds is the Scope Card by Sonic Core, 24 BIT audio with 32 Bit internal processing. The software used is also the Scope software that has been modified and tailored to the Wersi control surface. Additional sounds are via Native Instruments and other VST's can also be installed should you require a larger sound palette. Listen to the Sonic Core sound demos and that will give you an idea of what the Wersi truly sounds like.

I'll admit, most of the Wersi demos I've seen and heard are atrocious but they certainly aren't representative of the actual instrument. I wonder how many of these people have recorded their demo files since the audio is sub par.

Wersi is expensive but much of what you are paying for are all the real time controls, intelligent GUI, high resolution TFT touch screen, and the overall build quality (its a tank). Should Wersi lower their prices? Absolutely! Given that much of the hardware itself is quite expensive even if Wersi did lower their retail price it would still be much more than other TOTL arrangers. If you want build quality, a great keybed, expandability, and ease of use, you're going to have to pay for it.

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#252758 - 01/07/09 12:06 PM Re: Wersi Rhythm Designer
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Posts: 14277
Loc: NW Florida
All demos and lack of user examples to the contrary...

It's just like the MS. All it's users SAY it sounds great. Just no-one (other than a few European pros who are sponsored by the company) apparently can manage to do it for themselves...

Don't TELL me how great it is.

SHOW ME...
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#252759 - 01/07/09 01:12 PM Re: Wersi Rhythm Designer
Anonymous
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ensnareyou:
The Wersi sounds much better than you think ... an idea of what the Wersi truly sounds like ... aren't representative of the actual instrument ... (etc, etc)


I'd say "put up or shut up", (with all due respect) but the time to do that was way back when exactly the same apologia for Wersi's sonic shortcomings were being peddled last year.

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#252760 - 01/07/09 01:59 PM Re: Wersi Rhythm Designer
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5393
Loc: English Riviera, UK
Hi Diki

Virtually all the artists you see playing Wersi are freelance, and so you also see them playing other manufactures instruments, however most of them choose Wersi for their personal use, as they find it gives them most of what they need.

Seamaster

Grow up; your playground responses are starting to get ridicules.

Ensnareyou

As you are a Wersi owner you have probably read all my posts and reviews of OAS 7 on the various forums, and yet in spite of the talk, you have not posted any evidence that contradicts them.
Why

To give you something to go at, demonstrate to me how the Drums 2007 option is worth €150, as to me, like I have said in all the reviews, they are a complete total load of crap.

Rhythm Designer Software

I have not heard or tried it live, and so cannot make any comments on its quality or usefulness, (Unlike some on this site, I do not judge a book by its cover) however from what I have read it should have really good potential.

Regards

Bill
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