Has anyone noticed that some voices on the T3 are attenuated when the mod wheel is used?

e.g. The "Vintage Open" Guitar case in point on the T2 this very same voice is not attenuated.

Also the same "Vintage Open" Guitar on the T3 when played (via a saved T2 Registration) on the T3, sounds quite different (naturally I've matched all parameters I can find between the two same voices to test for the source of the attenuation and differing sound to no avail).
Unless I've missed something (quite possible), I really don't know what's going on here.

Why should the mod wheel drop the volume on these voices anyway - doesn't make sense unless there's something wrong with my machine?

One theory I had is that the “Piano ‘Lid Open’ via mod wheel” is locked on somehow with these voices where it shouldn’t be.

Anyone else notice this phenomenon?
Any feed back would be appreciated.

Chris.

Don't have that problem with "vintage open", though I have noticed attenuation problems with other sounds (for example "Clublead".)

What's this “Piano ‘Lid Open’ via mod wheel” parameter that you're talking about? I didn't see that anywhere...

I noticed but did not give it a second thought. Figured it was programmed that way. Assign it to something useful.

chony,
On the T3 Concert Grand voice, moving the position of the Mod Wheel alters the sound so as to emulate opening or closing the piano lid i.e. attenuated high frequencies for lid down.

Chris.

If you go into the voice editor (voice set) controller tab and high light modulation there are boxes at bott. left where you can alter Filter and Amplitude (Voice Volume) which dictates how those controllers will react to the mod. wheel.
The defaults are 64 - ie. no affect at that setting.
I'm familiar because last year I decided to use the mod. function to modify the brightness of Tyros 2 custom piano voices I was working on (so in theory you only need 1 piano to cover a range of requirements).
I also use the volume effect in a mix to bring up one voice as a solo while taking down the other voices which can very smooth and effective especially for BigBand transitions. More useful than that, since you can assign "modulation" to a pedal and make the transitions hands free. So if you want you can increase the usefulness of each registration button by say double in this way.
It appears that Yammie discovered last year they had this feature available on their keyboards and have gone to town on it in Ty3.
Not only lids on pianos, dumbing them down a bit (like the concert grand needs it ) but as Chris says you can hear the amplitude effect, sometimes filter over a large no. of voices.
Go to voice set to see what the settings are for any particular voice.
If it's a problem in some cases, you can set them back to 64 for no effect, or enhance them if that's what you want.
In either case they'll need saving to a registration or as a user voice.

John




[This message has been edited by jwyvern (edited 01-11-2009).]

jwyvern

Woohoo...

That's exactly what I wanted.
I can't believe I didn't see that.
A big thanks John.

Chris