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#254603 - 01/27/09 02:04 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
travlin'easy Offline
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I was wondering what style DonM used for the song, called him, then went about the task of tuning the style for the PSR-3000, which uses different voices for some parts. I also tuned the drums, changed the 4th OTS, made a few other changes, then saved the file. All of the tuning was done using the PSR-3000s onboard Style Creator program, which is extremely versatile. If anyone would like a copy of the style, email me at travlin_easy@copper.net and I'll be more than happy to email it to them. The style really rocks!

Thanks again Don,

Gary
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#254604 - 01/27/09 02:19 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
Dnj Offline
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Gary thats a S900/Tyros style...
I use it for sweet Home Chicago also.

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#254605 - 01/27/09 02:19 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
DonM Offline
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Gary, you're welcome.
Ian, I have read Dan's instructions. Very well done. Still, if it were done right in the first place, one wouldn't have to deeply edit it to make it still merely acceptable.
Even you MUST concede the vh is inferior to the other brands and even more so to standalone harmonizers.
DonM
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#254606 - 01/27/09 02:27 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by DonM:
Even you MUST concede the vh is inferior to the other brands and even more so to standalone harmonizers.
DonM



Yep...it certainly could use an improvement...even having it default to Dan's parameters coming from the factory would have been a big help.

Luckily for me, I don't sing on my solo gigs...all instrumental, but the VH has been very useful to me in another way...I plug my little Yamaha CS01 mono synth in the line-in and voila! Chords on a mono analog synth that sound awesome.

Perhaps Yamaha will do a new version of the VH in a future instrument, but I won't hold my breath.

Ian
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#254607 - 01/27/09 02:33 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
DonM Offline
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The vocal processor is quite good. It's just the harmonizer. It has been virtually unchanged since the PSR800.
DonM
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#254608 - 01/27/09 02:37 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by DonM:
It has been virtually unchanged since the PSR800.
DonM


Yes I had a PSR-8000, and unless my memory is bad, the one in the 8k was better than the one being used today.

It seemed to track better, and there was very little interference from the speakers.

But, I could be wrong...it's been a while.

Ian
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#254609 - 01/27/09 02:46 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
DonM Offline
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
I totally agree! It was the reason I switched from Technics back to Yamaha.
DonM
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#254610 - 01/27/09 03:00 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:
Gary, you're welcome.
Ian, I have read Dan's instructions. Very well done. Still, if it were done right in the first place, one wouldn't have to deeply edit it to make it still merely acceptable.
Even you MUST concede the vh is inferior to the other brands and even more so to standalone harmonizers.
DonM


It also depends on how you sing....I've tried Dans approach ...and no way would I use that harmony on stage, the voice tracking & note drops are horrible.

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#254611 - 01/27/09 03:06 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Dnj:
It also depends on how you sing....


Correctomundo.

I know many folks who are using it successfully...especially after inputting Dan's settings.

Mind you, it doesn't have the flexibility and quality of a stand alone unit, but it still does a pretty good job if you work with it a little.

Also, the present harmonizer works best in a "non-live" situation...probably for what it is intended, since these are primarily "home keyboards".

You probably put more demands on it that it was meant for, Donny...especially with your kind of "live" show.

Maybe Yamaha could bring back the one in the PSR-8000 and put it in the next generation Tyros/PSR?

Ian

[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 01-27-2009).]
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#254612 - 01/27/09 03:17 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
The tracking and voice drops are terrible?

IMHO that means the keyboard is broken..'IF' the VH is important to anyone with this issue...I would return it for a full refund.

Why would they put this Cr.P out on us?
They know it's broke..and won't fix it?
If enough of them get returned..it will get fixed.

Sad.

Lee
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