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AFG Music,
Interesting...please tell us more..AND please post some demos for us to hear, especially styles you have written.

Lee S.

Thank you for a real explaination of the MS by a user who explains what it is capable of doing.......

One HUGE benefit for MS owners is the ability to actually speak to the BIG BUY..., and put in FEATURE REQUESTS directly to the big guy! Got a software program you'd like to see tailored to the MS..., email DOM and if the call is big enough he'll try to make it available.

Too bad you can't get to the big three like this. The larger companies don't listen half as well to their actual customers as DOM does for his MS owners. Dom may not have the money of the big three for style development.., but he surely picks up in other areas the big three can't touch.

Thanks for posting your opinions. I will say however.., DO NOT let some people here pressure you into posting your work. We'd all like to hear one.., but I will say that MS owners get their asses kicked here by members for demos.., and it doesn't take long for MS owners to be turned sour from the pressure and constant trash talk from people here.

AFG music is probably part of that 2% of arranger users that Diki mentioned who is CAPABLE and WILLING to spend hours upon hours creating styles...

Let's face it, if the T3 came packed with Yamaha quality Afghan styles, you would in all probability be doing what the rest of us do... Using styles that ALREADY fit the music we play.

Once one is FORCED by lack of availability to write the styles we need, then of course, yes... The MS is the perfect choice.

But if there WERE two or three arrangers easily available (and cheaper) that had great Afghani styles already in them, would you still create your own? Especially if it took major 'pro' chops just to equal these off the shelf styles? Or would you do what the vast majority of us in the West do... simply be grateful that someone with MUCH better style making skills than we have has already done all this work for us?

And maybe moan that Dom hasn't got around to doing this yet for the MS?

AFG Music,
Very glad to have you join up.....Sounds like you are happy with MS for what you want to do...that's SUPER!

Also sounds like you actually enjoy making styles and have the talent to do so. Bravo to you!

Lee S.

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[This message has been edited by AFG Music (edited 03-06-2010).]

And squeak... MS owners only get their asses kicked (if you want to describe it that badly) because they DON'T post any 'proof of concept'. They just talk, and talk and talk...

Once any music is posted, it gets the same brutally honest assessment that any other arranger gets. If Yamaha and Korg and Ketron and Roland users are willing to have the sound of their work scrutinized, debated, slammed and praised, what's so goddamned special about MS users? Why is ONLY their work immune from criticism? Or praise... Let's be honest. If the music made on the MS lived up to the hype all it's owners give it, surely we will all stand back and gasp at it's amazing sound?

I will CERTAINLY give praise where praise is due... I've done it in the past (LONG PAST!) when good sounding music is posted on the MS, as I have for everything else regardless of arranger used.

What is so thin skinned about MS users? Bill accepts the slings and arrows hurled by many of us when he posts music done on the Wersi that sounds like a Casio. I slam Roland for terrible GW-8 videos (done by Roland, no less!), but we keep doing it. Only the MS gets a pass?

I can't remember a good piece of music that got an undeserved slam except by some idiot fanboy, and his comments always get drowned out in the sea of approval from everyone else. What do MS players have to fear? Unless they think that what they have created does NOT stand up to scrutiny equal to any other arranger. And Lord knows, none of them will admit that

Pay no attention to squeak... If you have some music you are proud of done on your MS, then post it. Let it be judged as others have. The only thing you have to fear is... fear itself!

Diki..., there are just as many others here to talk talk talk and never put up up up either. It's not the responsibilty or obligation of ANY MediaStation owner here to pony up demos from the talk talk talk.

All the anger and attitude about posting MS demos get directed at the wrong people on this forum. The MS owners are not responsible for marketing this thing. All that anger should be directed at DOM (no offense either Dom) because he's the BIG GUY.

Let the MS owners talk as much love about their keyboards as all the others do here. Those who own keyboards by the big three don't deal with the same pestering sh*%& that MS owners do because the big three have done a very good job at providing THEIR OWN marketing. Why shouldn't the MS owners be allowed to go on about their keyboards here as other members are. Start shooting all those demo requests and demands at the company who makes the keyboard. I'd love to hear some high quality demos too.., but you're not going to get anywhere by constantly bashing the MS.., then demanding it's owners "put up or shut up". It's not THEIR job.., that's Doms (again no offense Dom).