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#26295 - 05/25/00 06:05 AM Re: XV Online
Cosmic Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 05/20/00
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Loc: Hasselt, Limburg, Belgium
Hi, inray

Yep, I already explained something like that to the person that asked me this question. ..

I like to think of the XV as the masterplan joint of every good synth that roland ever made, boxed into a device with the needed poliphony...

Do the LFO's stutter sometimes while playing simultaneous parts?..

CD

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#26296 - 05/25/00 06:57 AM Re: XV Online
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Registered: 05/12/00
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Thanks for the info on the arp, Inray...of course one answer leads to many more questions.

First, the background...I am a techie and LOVE toying around with the digital side of things...I'm a *cough* competent keyboardist with some formal musical training and a well trained ear. My wife is the musician, BA in music, owns copyrights to songs, the whole nine yards.

We each have some old equipment and we're now in a position to start getting with the times. Predominantly we're looking for something that will serve as a virtual band/orchestra. My wife's interests in writing and recording are more varied than mine...jazz, orchestral, rock. So the sounds we're mainly interested in are piano, organ, strings, woodwinds, drumkits. Some world sounds would be good too.

We also want 88 keys to practice our piano chops.

My first instinct was to get the Triton because it seemed to be the all in one with an easy to use interface.

But then I started playing around with some other brands and I wasn't satisfied with the Triton as much. I didn't like the piano sounds in comparison to the Kurzweil, but I hated the interface on the Kurzweil. I love the feel of the xv-88 but I miss some of the gut level control that the Triton has. Etc.

Now my thinking is to by a keyboard controller (leaning towards the Oberheim MC-3000) and then get a sound generator, maybe the EX5r or the xv-5080. This would leave room to grow with more racks as needs aren't satisfied and new stuff comes out.

Also, for tracking and recording, I was thinking of getting the digi001.

Is this sound or am I getting over my head?

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#26297 - 05/25/00 05:44 PM Re: XV Online
Inray Offline
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Registered: 01/23/00
Posts: 72
Loc: GREECE
Cosmic Dreamer, digiboy and the rest hi,

First i'm very pleased with this forum just because so many nice people like you, are here and everyone has something to add to our knowledge.

CD i didn't notice an LFO issue but i'll do some tests tomorrow (because my wife will kill me if i play now 03:00 am)

digiboy i absolutely aggree with you on your opinions. I'm also an engineer (electronics) and i play keyboards, starting from piano, the last 25 years. My wife plays quitar but hates cables i have around my small room. Last years i had XP80,EX5,and JVs plus some Emu racks as my main setup. Just before some months i sold almost all my gear and bought new stuff. I'm using mostly keyboard versions and a few racks because i take them with me, one at a time, in a pro studio near my home. My favorite sampler synth is K2600 but i hate its UI. It remind me an EPROM programmer i had once !!! Always i was looking for realistic grands, pads and vintage sounds. I bought K2600 and Yamaha S80 just for their pianos. After listening XV+SRX02 it was very difficult for me not to buy them.

This moment i use a XV88 + K2600 as master controllers, Triton and XV5080 for addon parts and i'm recording on a digital Fostex setup (8/16 tracks) and computer sequencer.

I like synth and digital audio technology and actually is part of my job. Most of the time i have circuit schematics, and open boards on my desk. That's the second reason (the first is sound) i like Roland's gear. They have some of the best digital sound implementations i ever tested. Also testing XV outputs on audio spectrum analyzer i found that Roland this moment has one of the best and lowest noice floor among other synths. That's the reason i post so many positive comments on these new boxes.

See you soon...

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#26298 - 05/25/00 09:47 PM Re: XV Online
feefer Offline
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Registered: 05/14/00
Posts: 84
Loc: XV-5080
Hi all,

Quote:
Originally posted by digiboy:
Is this sound or am I getting over my head?


Of course you're getting over your head: we're all in 'over our heads', buried by manuals, etc.

Inray, I'm wondering if the 5080 is less suseptable to MIDI problems than the 2080 apparently is. Any difficulties or bottle-necking delay noted?

Along similar lines, I'm wondering if the benefit of 128 voices is available in practice, or just 'on paper': have you noticed any voices cutting out with dense multi-timbral musical passages?

Thanks,
Christopher

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#26299 - 05/26/00 03:36 AM Re: XV Online
Inray Offline
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Registered: 01/23/00
Posts: 72
Loc: GREECE
feefer,

I didn't notice on the XV the known 2080 MIDI/delay problems. I sent it bursts of multi notes and i found that its behavour is far better than JV.

The 128 voices are really available. I must say to you that if you have stereo sampled voices then the true polyphony is actually 64 but this is not a problem. BTW in any synth the stereo multisamples use dual oscilators giving just half the polyphony. I have noticed voice cutting out on some multi setups primary on sustains. I also noticed that the new OS is more clever to control this cutting using better LIFO algorithm and the cutting priority is far more logical than earlier Rolands. Ofcourse i would like having more than 128 voices but it's a good start point. As a final word i prefer 128 oscilators than Triton's 62...

INRAY

[This message has been edited by Inray (edited 05-26-2000).]

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#26300 - 05/26/00 04:22 PM Re: XV Online
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Registered: 05/20/00
Posts: 70
Loc: Hasselt, Limburg, Belgium
Hello,

Stupid question: what's in the box if you get the XV5080. Id really like demo's of new srx and srjv80 boards. When I bought my JV1010 I had a demo CD that only demonstrated boards untill hiphop. board 13 to 18 arn't demonstrated....

Question 2. is it really true that you can't use a normal d-sub to d-sub cable to use as an R-bus cable?

greets

CD

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#26301 - 05/26/00 05:23 PM Re: XV Online
Inray Offline
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Registered: 01/23/00
Posts: 72
Loc: GREECE
CosmicDreamer hi,

My XV5080 came in an ordinal brown recycled paper box with a manual, a reference cables but no demos CD or anything. The same about XV box. Roland distributor in my country (DIMITRIADIS S.A.) sent me an extra CD with SRX01,02 and some SRJV demos plus some S700 samples. The manuals also had many minor mistakes but maybe just because it was early made models. When they sent me (one month later) SRX cards their references was far better as well their package.

About R-bus cables: Yes it's true that there are some problems with some d-sub high density cable adapters but i tested a CableEye rbus cable with no problem. You can consult their site to find conversion solutions for use with Rolands, Tascam etc.

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#26302 - 05/26/00 07:39 PM Re: XV Online
Cosmic Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 05/20/00
Posts: 70
Loc: Hasselt, Limburg, Belgium
Thanks:

Tomorrow My site www.5080land.com will be updated with nice sounds from an XV + extra demo that's only on the XV88

CD

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#26303 - 06/01/00 04:18 PM Re: XV Online
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Hi guys,
This is my first time here and the community seems friendly and informative so I thought I'd introduce myself and ask a question. Does anyone know if Roland will make a fully weighted workstation based on the 3080? Last week I purchased the XV-88 and I love it. But, if down the line Roland comes out with a workstation model that has the fully weighted keys, I'll be kicking myself for not waiting.
Thanks

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