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#263210 - 05/12/09 06:36 PM Re: PSR S700/S900 unreliable!
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
All I have to say is how appalling a 90 day warranty is. You have to REALLY punish something badly, or get a complete lemon, before anything much goes wrong THAT close to purchase. Buttons, keys, displays... it takes a while before reliability issues either come up or don't.

My G70 had a two YEAR warranty, thank God, as I had a serious motherboard failure just before it ran out. Without the warranty, I would have been out over two GRAND. 90 days would have been a joke.

90 days IS a joke A bad one.
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#263211 - 05/12/09 06:40 PM Re: PSR S700/S900 unreliable!
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Here in Canada, the warranty on the PSR- S900 is 2 years parts and labour.

Ian
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#263212 - 05/12/09 06:57 PM Re: PSR S700/S900 unreliable!
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I find it interesting, however, that the construction quality that apparently IS good enough for arranger players is NOT good enough for their Workstation customers (who pay no more than you do!).

Why do WS users NEED better construction than we do? Is it maybe because they aren't willing to accept shoddy Yamaha toy construction and low duty cycle components because their competition makes quality keyboards?

Yamaha have pretty much the low end market to themselves. And, IMO, the build quality is suffering for it. Competition improves the breed. Complacency accepts when the breed lessens. If Yamaha's customers to a man complained about the disparity between the build quality of $1700 keyboards they make, as responsive as you keep saying they ARE to your needs, surely they would take this seriously..?

Put it this way... If Yamaha's PSR line WAS built to MotifXS standards, you wouldn't be complaining, would you? It IS possible to imagine an improvement to a Yamaha product, isn't it?

It's in your hands, and under your fingers.

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#263213 - 05/12/09 07:13 PM Re: PSR S700/S900 unreliable!
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Registered: 09/21/00
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A pro invests in an arranger lets say for $2000.00+ or whatever.....then for that measly investment will make 50x or more then that in a year of gigs.....& repeat year after year...then when something goes wrong they complain about the KB when most likely it was human error......if you dumped it in the garbage and bought another you would still be miles ahead of the game....Warranty?...give me a break!!

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#263214 - 05/12/09 07:36 PM Re: PSR S700/S900 unreliable!
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I've never had any problems with any of my PSR arrangers...and my keyboards get twice as much use as the average home player.

I invest $3000 for two PSR-S900 and use them both for three years or so, and I make quite a tidy sum of money with them, then sell them off, take the money and re-invest in two more....rinse and repeat.

That way, I'm always current with the latest and greatest technology, plus I always have a backup.

I have never had a button fail...the last two PSR-3000 I had, were problem free.

Any instrument can fail...or be dropped, or have something spilled into it...or be stolen.

The S900 is the best "bang for the buck" out there, portable, light, and awesome sounding, and still selling extremely well here in Eastern Canada.

Ian
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#263215 - 05/12/09 07:39 PM Re: PSR S700/S900 unreliable!
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Ian I totally agree with you ........not to mention the GREAT sound also

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#263216 - 05/12/09 07:46 PM Re: PSR S700/S900 unreliable!
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
All well and good, Ian and Donny... I am happy you love your S900's

But perhaps you have a comment about why a $1700 WS is built with far superior components, keybed and case to a $1700 arranger? By the same manufacturer...
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#263217 - 05/12/09 07:57 PM Re: PSR S700/S900 unreliable!
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Donny,
Not that long ago, we had to buy a TOTL arranger to get the great sounds and features we now get on the MOTL arrangers....so we can actually afford a backup without breaking the bank.

I couldn't imagine buying two G70 or two Tyros3 when two PSR-S900s will do the job with room to spare.

The last two TOTL arrangers I had were PSR-8000, and once the PSR-2000 became available, and it easily did everything I needed, then using two MOTL was the way I went from then on.

I won't use MP3 for backup, as it isn't my style, so I need another arranger, and luckily, Yamaha stepped up to the plate and kept giving us home run after home run with superb MOTL arrangers.

Ian
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#263218 - 05/12/09 08:01 PM Re: PSR S700/S900 unreliable!
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Comment as you wish but both my friend and I are enjoying and loving our S900 since they came out -- not a single problem.

John C.

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#263219 - 05/12/09 08:21 PM Re: PSR S700/S900 unreliable!
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
But perhaps you have a comment about why a $1700 WS is built with far superior components, keybed and case to a $1700 arranger? By the same manufacturer...



I can't explain that one Diki, my friend, but it seems that Korg, Yamaha and Roland are all doing it to some degree...they know what the market will bear I guess, wouldn't you think?

Just because the workstations have superior components and keybed to that of a similarly priced arranger. does not mean the arranger's keybed and components are poor...perhaps, in some cases, they are of a little less quality, but they are still extremely reliable, feel great, and work fine for their intended purpose, which is mainly as a "home" instrument...although some pros are clever enough to use them as OMB.

Ian

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