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#264738 - 05/26/09 09:48 AM Hey Frankieve!
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Frank..., could you help shed some light on the Audya's recording capabilities? Does it do any seqeuncing at all? The specs say it records to HD and FD.., yet on another post a member states the Audya doesn't have a FD (which then only leaves the HD) as the primary for sequencing. On that same post another member states the Audya lacks sequencing for creating or editign midi-files.

Is the Audya (in its current state-out of the box) just a rompler? Have you been given any information on additions such as style recording?

I think it's odd to not see these types of features on a TOTL arranger. I think the Audya sounds great too--as many of the members here will also agree..., but at its current price and "possibly" being nothing more than a rompler (at the moment) is strange.

[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 05-26-2009).]
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#264739 - 05/26/09 01:37 PM Re: Hey Frankieve!
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Wow Squeak are you buying an Audya now/

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#264740 - 05/26/09 01:48 PM Re: Hey Frankieve!
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Let's just say I'm in the market for a GOOD arranger.., and I'm exploring ALL my options currently

The Audya's missing some key features that (I) feel a TOTL arranger should have (especially in the this price point).

Right now the Korg PA2X is on my list (and drum roll..., Ian's going to mess hit pants) even the Tyros 3 is a contender on my list. I'd really love to know what and IF Roland has anything for the future. I like the G-70.., but even it's missing a few things that (for my needs) would be an issue.
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#264741 - 05/26/09 03:26 PM Re: Hey Frankieve!
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Originally posted by squeak_D:
Let's just say I'm in the market for a GOOD arranger.., and I'm exploring ALL my options currently

The Audya's missing some key features that (I) feel a TOTL arranger should have (especially in the this price point).

Right now the Korg PA2X is on my list (and drum roll..., Ian's going to mess hit pants) even the Tyros 3 is a contender on my list. I'd really love to know what and IF Roland has anything for the future. I like the G-70.., but even it's missing a few things that (for my needs) would be an issue.


Squeak, what is missing on the G70, that would be an issue with you?..Just curious..are you in need of a sampler, or MP3 player? I can't think of anything else the Korg would offer over the Roland..I can think of a few more things the Roland offers over the Korg..
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#264742 - 05/26/09 03:30 PM Re: Hey Frankieve!
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Sampler and User Voice Slots. I was pretty shocked to hear the G-70 doesn't have dedicated user voice slots.

Don't get me wrong.., I love Roland and the G-70's a nice arranger.., but I need an arranger that functions more like a synth and the PA fits that better IMO.

I'm also considering the Tyros 3 (which is quite shocking to some I'm sure.., Ian will probably mess himself when hearing it).

**Just to add something else Fran. I've come to accept that regardless how much I or anyone else bitches and moans about it.., arranger makers have no interest in producing a TOTL arranger with a modern set of styles. Sooooo.., knowing this and having no choice but to accept it.., I know that at this point if I want a TOTL arranger with modern styles.., I'll have to buy a TOTL arranger and write the styles myself.

That's one of the reasons the Korg PA is on the top of my list. Korg IMO has a sound set with a little more bite to it compared to the other makers. It's hard to explain.., but their sounds IMO have a harder feel to them.

With the PA's editing abilities (internally) it won't be hard to tweek patches and kits to modern them up a tad. Add to that the sampler and it opens up many more possibilities. Whichever TOTL arranger I get.., I'll end up locking myself away for a while.., and not being heard from here or any other forum and just buck down with writing modern styles that suit my needs.

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#264743 - 05/26/09 03:45 PM Re: Hey Frankieve!
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Originally posted by squeak_D:
Frank..., could you help shed some light on the Audya's recording capabilities? Does it do any seqeuncing at all? The specs say it records to HD and FD.., yet on another post a member states the Audya doesn't have a FD (which then only leaves the HD) as the primary for sequencing. On that same post another member states the Audya lacks sequencing for creating or editign midi-files.

Is the Audya (in its current state-out of the box) just a rompler? Have you been given any information on additions such as style recording?

I think it's odd to not see these types of features on a TOTL arranger. I think the Audya sounds great too--as many of the members here will also agree..., but at its current price and "possibly" being nothing more than a rompler (at the moment) is strange.

[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 05-26-2009).]


Looks like from what I'm told. Full Sequencing and Style editing will be done on OS 3.0 which is in the works.

Ted from CMC told me that Ketron is willing to implement changes directly from user requests as long as they are for the greater good. Meaning I asked for a One touch setting like the Tyros and Korg have, so we will see.

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#264744 - 05/26/09 03:48 PM Re: Hey Frankieve!
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Thanks for the info Frank. I can't imagine Ketron leaving those features off or not offering them at all down the line with an OS upgrade.
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#264745 - 05/26/09 04:24 PM Re: Hey Frankieve!
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Hi Squeak,
if you're seriously considering an Audya,
I'd wait & see what what functions Ketron implement for style creation & style editing ,if you are planning on creating your own styles.

The style creation/editing functions on my SD1+ were a joke, compared to what's on my PA800.
What was passed off as style editing on SD1+ was nothing more than being able to alter voices, panning, etc
copying tracks from one style part to another ( provided the patterns were the same length) If you needed to fix a wrong note, you had to rerecord the track in realtime. If you wanted to involve a PC in your style recording process, you had to record your style parts from pc to sd via midi cable.

Hopefully Ketron have finally realized, some people do want to record their own styles, & that better onboard editing functions are required.

best wishes
Rikki


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Originally posted by squeak_D:
Thanks for the info Frank. I can't imagine Ketron leaving those features off or not offering them at all down the line with an OS upgrade.




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#264746 - 05/26/09 04:30 PM Re: Hey Frankieve!
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I'm curios what they'll add..., but the more I look at it I think the PA model will probably be my best option..., as I need an arranger that functions more like a synth. The PA line has A LOT of editing options for patches.., plus the sampler reads AKAI!!!!!

I plan on using whichever TOTL arranger I get to write a slew of modern styles. The PA offers a lot in the tweeking department which impresses me quite a bit too.
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#264747 - 05/26/09 04:34 PM Re: Hey Frankieve!
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good luck Squeak...awaiting more reports on what you choose.

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