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#26492 - 03/04/01 12:44 PM JV-1010 - do you lose sound quality?
Curlee Offline
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Registered: 02/26/01
Posts: 3
Hi folks,

I'm trying to record the a JV-1010 sound as Audio in Cubase (v5). When I play back the recording listening to the result through a pair of monitor headphones, the sound quality has totally lost it's edge. Compared to listening to the JV-1010 sound directly (i.e. with headphones plugged into the JV itself) there is just no comparison.

Does anyone know why this is? Am I doing something wrong when recording (I'm feeding the output of the JV into two inputs on a Tascam 424 (acting as a mixer) which plugs into the Line-In of the soundcard (Soundblaster Live).

Is it due to the soundcard converting digital to an analogue signal? Or is it that the soundcard is crappy?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
Curlee

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#26493 - 03/04/01 08:19 PM Re: JV-1010 - do you lose sound quality?
Fran Carango Offline
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Maybe you should raise the sampling rate
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#26494 - 03/05/01 02:04 AM Re: JV-1010 - do you lose sound quality?
Magnus Nordén Offline
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Registered: 07/03/00
Posts: 33
Hi Curlee!

I have a jv1010 which I pipe into a Yamaha SW1000XG card via a mixer without any loss of sound quality. I would certainly say that you are doing something wrong if you get a noticeable quality drop.

I am sorry I cannot be more specific in trying to help you.

All the best,
Magnus

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#26495 - 03/05/01 07:00 AM Re: JV-1010 - do you lose sound quality?
Curlee Offline
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Registered: 02/26/01
Posts: 3
Thanks for your responses.

Are you guys feeding the JV directly into the Line-In of your soundcard, or via a mixer? In theory I guess this shouldn't make any difference in sound quality?

What sample rate do you recommend? I am using 44.1.

Also, can anyone share with me an effective way of hooking up the JV to Cubase, so that you can record in midi (hearing the actual JV souns on playback) and convert to audio files when ready? I'm trying to avoid buying extra midi break-out boxes etc.

Thanks!

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#26496 - 03/05/01 07:42 AM Re: JV-1010 - do you lose sound quality?
Magnus Nordén Offline
Member

Registered: 07/03/00
Posts: 33
Hi Curlee!

I feed the jv through a mixer into the line in of my soundcard. I use 44.1 kHz sample rate, just as you do, 16 bits. One thing, maybe: Are you sure you are recording at the loudest possible level into your sound card, i.e. that you are as close to 0 dB as possible when recording the jv audio into your sequencer? If not, this may account for the loss in sound quality you experience.

I don't use Cubase myself (I use XG-Works, a Yamaha sequencer), but in order to record whatever I play on my keyboard on the jv as midi in the sequencer, I choose the midi out port in the sequencer and allocate channel 1-16 on that port to voices in a jv performance. (If you have a mixer, you will hear what you play on the jv - while playing - because you will mix the output from the jv into the sound coming through your loudspeakers. At this stage, what goes into your sequencer is only the midi data sent out by your keyboard. The actual synth sound doesn't enter your sequencer or PC until you record the actual audio output into the sequencer. If this is confusing, do read up on the subject. www.computermusic.co.uk has a very good user's forum for this kind of entry level stuff.)

To be able to do the above you have to set your jv's performances up the way you want them. This isn't all intuitive - but by way of the SoundDiver bundled with the jv it can indeed be done. (Go to E-magic's website and download the update at http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/sdwin.html
The version that came with my jv didn't even work.)

In order to run SoundDiver in parallell with you sequencer you either must have a soundcard with multi-client capable drivers (lucky you if you do!), or you will have to take recourse to Hubis Loopback Device, which is freeware.

There is a user forum for SoundDiver users at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sounddiver-users
Register as a user there, and do a search on Hubis and you should get some help on how to set Hubis up with Sdiver and the sequencer on your system.

I hope this doesn't overwhelm you. All this was complete gibberish to me when I got my jv last summer. I've now got it all set up and running happily on my system, so don't loose faith.

Lastly, to record the jv audio output into your secuencer you just set the sequencer to - big surprise - record the audio output from the jv... Exactly how this is done in Cubase I don't know, but I am sure it cannot be all too difficult.

All the best,
Magnus

[This message has been edited by Magnus Nordén (edited 03-05-2001).]

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