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#273786 - 10/15/09 10:26 AM Bosi it is!
zuki Offline
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After jobs of different sizes and shapes, I decided to stay with Bose. There are too many positives and I'm particularly enjoying the beautiful clarity. The clever design puts it over the top. I will get another Compact soon. Thx to everyone for setup ideas, etc.
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#273787 - 10/15/09 10:34 AM Re: Bosi it is!
Dnj Offline
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Smart decision Zuki......
I think you jumped the gun initially, I knew you would enjoy it after a week of different venues.....the Bose C will pay itself back time & time again!!
Welcome to the Bose family!

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#273788 - 10/15/09 10:36 AM Re: Bosi it is!
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Hey Zuki - I have used the Bose Compact several times and a couple of them I daisy-chained my Crate Limo amp (which has a 10" woofer and a tweeter) to the output of the Bose. It gave me a bit more bass with the Crate on the floor and expanded the mid-range as well. I liked the sound and it was not much effort to put the Crate in the mix.

Sounds like you made a great decision! The Bose is a great tool for the smaller jobs and as you said, the clarity is great.

Have fun!
Randy
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#273789 - 10/15/09 10:46 AM Re: Bosi it is!
Stephenm52 Offline
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Ah, Confucius say " Zuki very wise man."

Congratulations Jim!!

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#273790 - 10/15/09 11:03 AM Re: Bosi it is!
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by saxxman:
Hey Zuki - I have used the Bose Compact several times and a couple of them I daisy-chained my Crate Limo amp (which has a 10" woofer and a tweeter) to the output of the Bose. It gave me a bit more bass with the Crate on the floor and expanded the mid-range as well. I liked the sound and it was not much effort to put the Crate in the mix.

Sounds like you made a great decision! The Bose is a great tool for the smaller jobs and as you said, the clarity is great.

Have fun!
Randy


Randy that is excactly what I do many times on my med to large venues..I chain my powered 15"
Mackie Tapco Thump(s)and it adds a super bottom end when kept on the floor...allowing the high Bose speakers on the pole sear out over the audience with a very wide dispersion..sounds great!

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#273791 - 10/15/09 11:47 AM Re: Bosi it is!
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Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:
After jobs of different sizes and shapes, I decided to stay with Bose. There are too many positives and I'm particularly enjoying the beautiful clarity.


Congratulations.

Scott
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#273792 - 10/15/09 11:47 AM Re: Bosi it is!
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Wise decision, Jim.

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#273793 - 10/15/09 11:54 AM Re: Bosi it is!
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Good move.

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#273794 - 10/15/09 02:41 PM Re: Bosi it is!
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Welcome to da family.

Joe

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#273795 - 10/15/09 05:01 PM Re: Bosi it is!
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So you need to bring an additional heavy piece of gear to a louder gig, on top of an already $2000 PA?

Forgive me for stressing this point one more time, but damn! Do you ALL own Audya's and Wersi's too?
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#273796 - 10/15/09 05:53 PM Re: Bosi it is!
Dnj Offline
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Why do you keep referencing the money factor on a piece of gear that you can enjoy transporting, having your audience & yourself love the sound quality, & on top of that make back 100 fold+ on your small investment gig after gig?....

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#273797 - 10/15/09 06:25 PM Re: Bosi it is!
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Why do you keep insisting that cost has NO impact whatsoever? Just pretend, just for one minute, that somebody else might NOT feel exactly the same way as you (I know it's tough, but you can do it ). Just pretend that someone else might NOT be working 24/7. Just pretend that some at SZ might not be able to drop what they are using and pick up the most expensive thing on the market. Just pretend that, after buying the most expensive small PA on the planet, they might not actually make any MORE than they were with the old one (did your fees go up now you have the S910? Didn't think so ). So where is this EXTRA money coming from?

Tooth fairy?

I guess it depends on your priorities. eh? For SOME here, food and shelter factor into it. So maybe a little advice with that in mind shouldn't be so dismissed, perhaps?
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#273798 - 10/15/09 06:54 PM Re: Bosi it is!
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Diki ... Aren't those all questions the BUYER should answer WITHOUT help from any of us? ...
If someone needs help deciding whether to put food on the table or buy more expensive PA equipment, that person has more problems than any of us can cure ...

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#273799 - 10/15/09 07:17 PM Re: Bosi it is!
zuki Offline
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Just ONE Bose Compact will handle everything I do, volume wise. In fact, it should do everything I have scheduled so far for 2010. However, I do want to go stereo and this would really be the ultimate setup.

The one larger job I played that I thought didn't handle too well was probably my fault. I had it directly behind me and over my head. It gave me a headache and since I followed advice to put it on the side and a bit behind, a remarkable improvement has been realized.

This is most probably the ONLY mono system I could ever live with while waiting for another speaker. In fact, I'm getting to the point that it might be good enough as a mono PA - it is that good.

It is definitely expensive, but if you throw in the cases and pole, it really doesn't make it too far out. The versatility is what's unique and separates it from the rest - very cool Bose! Tonight I just used one extension and table top - awesome.

It takes me some time to cozy in on something new, as I did with the 800. Now it's time to move ahead with what I have. Thanks fellas, I love it.
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#273800 - 10/15/09 07:19 PM Re: Bosi it is!
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I agree completely. But, OTOH, some of them are asking our opinions on gear. Taking ALL aspects of its' performance into account is, IMO, the way to provide an answer that transcends personal opinion.

In truth, we tend to take people who ONLY recommend the most expensive solution as a little suspect. There are LOTS of counter opinions to 'buy a Wersi' or 'buy an Audya' that don't get 'money should be of no importance' rammed down their throats. Why a PA decision should be any different is beyond me...
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#273801 - 10/15/09 07:31 PM Re: Bosi it is!
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:

This is most probably the ONLY mono system I could ever live with In fact, I'm getting to the point that it might be good enough as a mono PA - it is that good.

It takes me some time to cozy in on something new, as I did with the 800. Now it's time to move ahead with what I have. Thanks fellas, I love it.



Now your talking Herman

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#273802 - 10/15/09 07:33 PM Re: Bosi it is!
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
I agree completely. But, OTOH, some of them are asking our opinions on gear. Taking ALL aspects of its' performance into account is, IMO, the way to provide an answer that transcends personal opinion.

In truth, we tend to take people who ONLY recommend the most expensive solution as a little suspect. There are LOTS of counter opinions to 'buy a Wersi' or 'buy an Audya' that don't get 'money should be of no importance' rammed down their throats. Why a PA decision should be any different is beyond me...


Somtimes even people with money are cheap

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#273803 - 10/15/09 10:37 PM Re: Bosi it is!
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While I would say I'm not a wealthy person...just comfortable, I sure didn't mind dropping a chunk of change for the two Bose L1. I played in a large theatre, and required no monitors, even at the times I had a vocalist. Everyone I knew, raved about the sound quality, and how it wasn't "ear-piercing" but full and substantial.

To me, a really good PA system is not a luxury, but a necessity, and I have played through some major sound systems in my 40 plus years of being in music, and the Bose was, by far, the most exquisite PA I've ever used.

The Compacts perform the same, but at less overall level, but the quality is still there.

I can't see wasting money on an overpriced system, but, personally, I can't see money ever being wasted on Bose...they are that good.

Worth every penny, in my estimation.

Jim, you are going to love the Compacts in stereo...you will look forward to hearing your keyboard the way it was meant, and designed, to be heard...in stereo.

Sure makes the gig go a lot nicer, when you are lovin' the sound, and you have the confidence in knowing your audience is hearing you at your best.

[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 10-15-2009).]
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#273804 - 10/16/09 07:07 AM Re: Bosi it is!
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:
Just ONE Bose Compact will handle everything I do, volume wise. In fact, it should do everything I have scheduled so far for 2010. However, I do want to go stereo and this would really be the ultimate setup.

The one larger job I played that I thought didn't handle too well was probably my fault. I had it directly behind me and over my head. It gave me a headache and since I followed advice to put it on the side and a bit behind, a remarkable improvement has been realized.

This is most probably the ONLY mono system I could ever live with while waiting for another speaker. In fact, I'm getting to the point that it might be good enough as a mono PA - it is that good.

It is definitely expensive, but if you throw in the cases and pole, it really doesn't make it too far out. The versatility is what's unique and separates it from the rest - very cool Bose! Tonight I just used one extension and table top - awesome.

It takes me some time to cozy in on something new, as I did with the 800. Now it's time to move ahead with what I have. Thanks fellas, I love it.


Glad you listened to some of us and gave it another chance. I thought if you spent more time with it you'd really begin to like it. For as much as you work, Jim...beyond the great sound...the portability is also a huge plus.

Enjoy your new gear and have a great & safe holiday season...



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#273805 - 10/16/09 07:15 AM Re: Bosi it is!
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
While I would say I'm not a wealthy person...just comfortable, I sure didn't mind dropping a chunk of change for the two Bose L1. I played in a large theatre, and required no monitors, even at the times I had a vocalist. Everyone I knew, raved about the sound quality, and how it wasn't "ear-piercing" but full and substantial.

To me, a really good PA system is not a luxury, but a necessity, and I have played through some major sound systems in my 40 plus years of being in music, and the Bose was, by far, the most exquisite PA I've ever used.

The Compacts perform the same, but at less overall level, but the quality is still there.

I can't see wasting money on an overpriced system, but, personally, I can't see money ever being wasted on Bose...they are that good.

Worth every penny, in my estimation.

Jim, you are going to love the Compacts in stereo...you will look forward to hearing your keyboard the way it was meant, and designed, to be heard...in stereo.

Sure makes the gig go a lot nicer, when you are lovin' the sound, and you have the confidence in knowing your audience is hearing you at your best.


Yes, Yes.....& Yes!

also sometimes when people can't afford or think something is to expensive although they really want it they blast it....then later on come around and do what they have to to buy it anyway



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#273806 - 10/16/09 01:18 PM Re: Bosi it is!
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Who's blasting? I don't suppose ANYONE noticed that I was first in line recommending that zuki drop the SRM150's and get a stereo Compact system. For what he tends to do, they will work out great.

All I have been trying to do is get SOMEONE to quantify the difference between the Compact and the larger L1 system (and other, more powerful systems). Everybody notes there's a difference. But what EXACTLY is that difference?

BTW, still 'no comment' from Mr Pesce about all his posts 'blasting' the Bose during HIS time of doubt? Mind you, OF COURSE his doubts were legitimate during that time, but now HE has his mind made up, no one else should entertain them? The 'real deal' has spoken... get in line or be ridiculed, folks!
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#273807 - 10/16/09 01:36 PM Re: Bosi it is!
Dnj Offline
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Now now dike calm down...at the time the Bose L1 original came to market I bought one used it extensively and although I enjoyed the sound...I didn't like carrying all the pieces that go with it and setting it up for all my in & out small NH/small gigs it was just overkill.........hence the Bose compact filled that needs very well in my rig now....obviously the L1 is more powerful and has 24 speakers down the pole vs 6...but that's no surprise and the price reflects this but there are less elements to carry & lighter. If I like things I keep them, if I don't bye bye....any other questions try your crystal ball....

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#273808 - 10/16/09 02:48 PM Re: Bosi it is!
Diki Offline


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Loc: NW Florida
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Honestly the Bose is not worth close to $3000.00

for just an average sound in a MONO system nothing earth shattering though dont kid yourself if you never heard one......that any top brand PA system could accommodate easily.....I truthfully found in many time very thin when I went out in the audience back in the room.. I know many people that had to but Bigger Power subs to make em dance. It is what it is. I sold mine and never regretted it.


I forgot to bring my crystal ball... had to use the forum 'search' instead
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#273809 - 10/16/09 03:29 PM Re: Bosi it is!
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Correctamundo......so I also tried 2 subs after that for a few weeks too because I saw a DJ using 4 of them ....but in the end as I have stated before it was just too much gear to carry plus everything else I have. I'm happier with two powered 15's....and the BC combo for now.
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#273810 - 10/16/09 09:38 PM Re: Bosi it is!
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Jim - I hope youe you enjoy your Compact as much as I do mine. For me, live stereo is overrated because with directional speakers, many listeners can't appreciate both channels if they are not separated and placed properly. Maybe two Compacts will sound better, certain fuller - as stated earlier. I find that as long as I keep the Compact away from me I can hear what the audience hears and better evaluate my sound - and I think the sound is excellent.
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#273811 - 10/17/09 11:43 PM Re: Bosi it is!
zuki Offline
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Thanks Cass,

On 11/25, I go back to a retirement facility that has a Bose Compact system. I finally get to check a Bosi out! Can't wait. For now, the mono IS doing just fine - beyond my expectations - you guys were right on.
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