Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Saying that Yamaha has "ignored customers" is a false statement...and this comes from you, you who always say everything should be based on the facts....hah! What a joke!
Tyros1/2/3 users (and PSR2K/3K/S900/S910 users) have been incredibly supported by Yamaha...you should read Yamaha forums and get your facts straight before you go spouting off with your so called "facts".
Most of us here have only been able to get facts about the Audya through what has been posted by users, so whatever was said by these people, about the Audya's faults, bugs, and present state of operation is what we have to go on and, thankfully AJ has finally cleared things up for all concerned...including you, my Genesys playing friend.
But to claim that Yamaha does not support it's present customers, with absolutely no proof at all is seriously putting your integrity at it's lowest level...lower than snake's bellybutton in a wagon rut.
Go read the forums and then come back with some actual knowledge about this subject...don't waste forum space with things you obviously know nothing about.
And again, don't bother bringing up the PSR-9000 Pro...that is so old and so obviously desperate of you...that was 10 years ago, and bears no relevance to what we are discussing here in the present...nor should you bring up Korg's LED issues, or the G-70's poor OS when introduced....all these companies have learned from their mistakes, and have moved on with improved support.
Your company deserted you, and you are left with an instrument without factory support...please don't take your anger and frustration out on decent companies like Roland, Yamaha and Korg, that are continually improving and implementing great customer support and working to keep their products problem free ....even Audya is doing pretty good in that department.
Please, do us and yourself a favour and deal with things that are actually happening, or that might happen in the future....the past is a canceled cheque, and nothing can be done about it...except to learn from it.
Let's hope Ketron learns from this issue, and hopefully before it causes serious damage to it's good name and reputation.
Ian
If this is the way you are trying to rebuild your credibility as a clinician, its not working.
It is very ironic that you accused me of assuming too much but that is the exact thing that you are doing.
Saying the Yamaha has ignored customers was referring to those who want a 76 key arranger. It was in no way referring to the Yamaha 9000 pro.
As a Yamaha customer using the xs, I and others would like a 76 key MOTL or TOTL arranger. There are other Yamaha customers who have 61 key keyboards that want a 76 keyboard. As you have pointed out many time Yamaha is not interested in that market.
So that is where Ketron and the Audya comes in.
But I take it you went on this rant because you were caught in willfully spreading assumptions and incorrect statements regarding the Audya. Before AJ told things in more detail, an actual Audya user gave us some information about style editing on the Audya, but you chose not to believe it an continued to spread your misrepresentations and erroneous information about the Audya.
It is now beginning to ruin your credibility as an independent arranger clinician (if that ever existed). With your most recent post on the Audya has exposed even more that you are here to promote Yamaha.
You were talking about the Audya (an arranger you have never tried), stating untruths like the Audya is a work in progress and insinuating that Ketron will be soon out of business.
These statements are significant coming from you because the Audya and Ketron are Yamaha arrangers competitors; Yamaha a company you use and get paid from.
So if you are bashing a keyboard you have never played while working for its competitor, how can any one take you seriously?
And I don’t believe that Korg, Roland and Yamaha have really learned from any thing. Putting out upgrades and bugs fixes is the name of the game in this business.
Korg had some issues when the PA2x pro first came out. Did they “learn”. No. They came out with OS 2.0 which IMO should have been there from the very first release of the PA 2x pro.
Roland had some issues with the G70 but did they “learn” from it? No. They made the GW8 but had an update to include style editing which IMO should have been there from the very beginning.
Yamaha had some issues with the 9000 pro. Did they “learn” from it? No. they came out with the PSR S900. They then made a PSR S910 which IMO, the PSR S900 should have been.
Gem had some issues with the SK 760. Did they learn from it? No. They came out with the Genesys. They then released the Genesys S which IMO the first Genesys should have been.
Ian the Ironic, I wish you the best in trying to rebuild your credibility and trying to persuade persons to start taking you seriously.
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