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#276883 - 11/29/09 06:53 AM Yamaha is like Coke
vagro Offline
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Registered: 11/05/07
Posts: 321
Loc: Argentina
Yes I know I´m sick and I´m searching for professional help soon. Two weeks ago I replaced my Psr 1500 for the Psr s900 I longed to own. Due to Yamaha very high prices in my country first I bought a Pa500 and later the Mediastation for Vsti. As many of you know I use all my keyboards together mixing the different textures of sounds, but of course, my Psr 1500 is on sale now in Argentina. Comparing both the Pa500 and the Psr s900 side by side with same monitor speakers I can definetly say Korg is by far more live and crispy and the drums are 100% better.In the Psr I can't get the same sound quality for the drums even tweaking all the EQ parameters (for sure I know all the tricks in the Yamaha after 3 years playing the PSR). However the SA and special voices (Sweet, Cool, Mega) are excellent and I can´t reach the same realism with the Pa500 so easily. In my case I use the Pa500's drums when I play the PSR's styles which may not sound properly only with some drum kits (ie dance or brush kits) so in that case I mute the Pa´s Drum channel involved. Not even comparable is the Pa´s capabilities for editing sounds (EQ of individual parts, waves etc) contolling ext. keyboards, setting split points, velocity etc to the right/left hand parts and so so so...
But... I love Yamaha! It´s not better I know and that's why I couldn't do without Korg after knowing it. I think the reason I love Yamaha is because first of all I am an amateur (to whom the product is mainly focused and they know what I need) and because I grew up loving Yamaha since I was a kid. Check the manual and see how simple they make everything, sometimes using some drawings for kiddies. So it's a very intelligent and trustful company which has been working and growing with their customers.
That's the reason why many people love Yamaha: it's part of our own lives and story the same way many people prefer Coke over newer brands even more tasteful.

PS. Sorry I am always late commenting older products. I know the Psr s910 is already there but in Argentina things arrive 1 or 2 years later if they ever do, and yes... I paid Us$2400 for this one and the Congress has just approved a law which might increase imported electronic products over 30%. A cure for my desease?
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Korg Pa3x 61 - Mediastation X76 - Yamaha Psr s900 - Korg Tr61 - Roland PK5A - NanoKontrol - Ensoniq SQ1 - Yamaha D85 organ

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#276884 - 11/29/09 07:25 AM Re: Yamaha is like Coke
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
As a music dealer's friend described to me the other day, "The average TOTL, and MOTL arranger buyer is usually financially comfortable, retired, and of average musical talent.

Of course there will be exceptions.

Joy in a keyboard can come from many quarters. It can come from the “feel” of a button on the panel. It can come, such as it does in a PSR-S910, from that spine-tingling organ sound.

It can come from the way a sound caresses your ear, from the way the electric pianos have that nice warm touch of distortion.

Joy can come from a nicely designed and ergonomically perfect panel and screen, from the surge you feel when you play the Feedbacker Guitar sound. Sometimes, as is the case with the Tyros3, it can come from so many places, all at once, you are left feeling a little bit light-headed. Even the way the wheels feel will make one's heart feel all gooey and warm.

Yamaha realised a long time ago that what you make people feel, is just as important as what you make.


You can buy a cheap Casio that lets you play "Blue Spanish Eyes", or "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" with two fingers, and you may be pleased with the savings you’ve made. But saving money is never joyful. It is mean-spirited and demonstrates that you have a heart of coal.

If you wish to lead a joyous life, you should always spend 10% more than you earn.

Ah Vagro...now you know the meaning of the phrases, "Things go better with Coke",
"Coke revives and sustains", Live on the Coke side of life"...now all you have to is substitute the word "Yamaha" for "Coke".

Happy playing.

[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 11-29-2009).]
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#276885 - 11/29/09 09:15 AM Re: Yamaha is like Coke
montunoman Offline
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Registered: 10/20/09
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Loc: Dallas, Texas
You have 2 good keyboards that contrast eachother well. I had to decide between Korg and Yamaha and went with Yamaha for some of the reasons that you mention. The voices sound nicer to me and the OS seemed easier. However I am tiering of some of the Yamaha over produced styles.
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#276886 - 11/29/09 03:07 PM Re: Yamaha is like Coke
vagro Offline
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Registered: 11/05/07
Posts: 321
Loc: Argentina
Thanks for your comments Ian. I never thought having a joyous life depended on how much money you spend unless you interpret the meaning of "spending" as "offering" something (a thing or affection) to someone or oneself. I would not deny that I feel very happy when I buy something for me or for others.


Montunoman: yes the two arrangers I have complement each other very well. But only those Psr's special voices I mentioned compete with the PA's sounds which most of them are really good. The styles in the Korg did not get me bored because they are simpler and not song specific so you can use them very often, plus adding some pads you can get a complete different style. That's why I wonder how Yamaha keeps moving my heart not being objectively superior to this other brand. I think something related to my past when I was a kid keeps me going back to Yamaha.
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Korg Pa3x 61 - Mediastation X76 - Yamaha Psr s900 - Korg Tr61 - Roland PK5A - NanoKontrol - Ensoniq SQ1 - Yamaha D85 organ

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#276887 - 11/29/09 03:21 PM Re: Yamaha is like Coke
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by vagro:
Thanks for your comments Ian. I never thought having a joyous life depended on how much money you spend unless you interpret the meaning of "spending" as "offering" something (a thing or affection) to someone or oneself. I would not deny that I feel very happy when I buy something for me or for others.


I agree with your sentiments, Vagro. My post was mostly tongue-in-cheek (hence the smileys).

Ian
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