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#277070 - 12/02/09 03:08 PM Re: Example of just how powerful KORG engines are.
Irishacts Offline
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Hi DanO1

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But the sound engine used, is the sampler, not necessary the on board sounds and not an arranger.



Sorry but a sampler can only reproduce what it recorded, it cannot change the sound.

It's the sound engine that takes the signal and turns it into so many different sounds as demostrated in the songs.

The same rules apply to any device that produces it sound by the means of PCM sound generation. Samples are only recordings they can never be changed by the sampler. Only looped, chopped or reversed. Either way, it's still just the same recording diced without the sound engine.

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#277071 - 12/02/09 03:29 PM Re: Example of just how powerful KORG engines are.
Irishacts Offline
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Hi mc.

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would like to here your thoughts on comparisons.


The main difference I hear is that the SD5 sounds more like a keyboard with lower quality samples than the KORG which at no point sounds like a keyboard. It sounds like a band.

For example compare these two. http://www.ketron.it/mp3/SD5/BigBand.mp3 http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/mp3/pa2x/Full_Songs/08_Big_Band.mp3

The Ketron bolts out the gate with a blast of music but the sounds leave a fake taste in my mouth, especially that trumpet sound. Where the KORG one seems more like a relaxed professional band sitting back and enjoying the mood if you know what I mean.

Or here's a better example altogether. http://www.ketron.it/mp3/SD5/Salsa.mp3 http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/mp3/pa2x/Full_Songs/11_Latin_Salsa.mp3

The Ketron is very weak and lifeless sounding and the drums are very fake, where the Pa2X is again far more professional sounding and live. Again sounds like a real band.

I'm not sure I can find anything on the Ketron that I like better than the Pa2X from a sound quality point of view. Everything on the KORG just sounds far more believable.

As for style programming quality, they are pretty well matched I think.

Regards
James

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#277072 - 12/02/09 06:21 PM Re: Example of just how powerful KORG engines are.
DanO1 Offline
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Well I am happy you love your Korg so much as much as I love Ketron.



[This message has been edited by DanO1 (edited 12-02-2009).]
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#277073 - 12/02/09 06:38 PM Re: Example of just how powerful KORG engines are.
FransN Offline
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After playing many years Yamaha I find the Korg styles much better. More realistic and less boring than Yamaha styles.

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#277074 - 12/02/09 06:39 PM Re: Example of just how powerful KORG engines are.
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I'm not sure how this became a Korg vs. Ketron debate but at least in the salsa example the Ketron sounds much better to me. I play Yamaha and wish I had some Latin styles that came at least close to the Ketron.
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#277075 - 12/02/09 06:46 PM Re: Example of just how powerful KORG engines are.
FransN Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by montunoman:
I'm not sure how this became a Korg vs. Ketron debate but at least in the salsa example the Ketron sounds much better to me. I play Yamaha and wish I had some Latin styles that came at least close to the Ketron.


Maby Korg latin styles aren't as good as Ketron's( personally I think the Korg sound better ) but every keyboard has his pros and cons. And Audya has a lot of cons. Especially if you see how much this keyboard cost.



[This message has been edited by FransN (edited 12-02-2009).]

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#277076 - 12/02/09 06:59 PM Re: Example of just how powerful KORG engines are.
DanO1 Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by montunoman:
I'm not sure how this became a Korg vs. Ketron debate but at least in the salsa example the Ketron sounds much better to me. I play Yamaha and wish I had some Latin styles that came at least close to the Ketron.


Perhaps I started it, so I will remove my tune.
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#277077 - 12/02/09 07:22 PM Re: Example of just how powerful KORG engines are.
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by DanO1:
Perhaps I started it, so I will remove my tune.



That's too bad, Dan...I thought it sounded great.

Nice work.

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#277078 - 12/02/09 10:50 PM Re: Example of just how powerful KORG engines are.
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
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Quote:
Originally posted by FransN:
Maby Korg latin styles aren't as good as Ketron's( personally I think the Korg sound better ) but every keyboard has his pros and cons. And Audya has a lot of cons. Especially if you see how much this keyboard cost.

[This message has been edited by FransN (edited 12-02-2009).]


This is the real bit what Fran says, where in Gods name is the other £2000.00 in the Audya, it isn't anywhere, it's in your imagination, it certainly isn't in better anything, I have both side by side, well one on it's end. Anyway Auyda is not finished yet and I doubt if it will ever command a £2000.00 cost difference. As well I have never heard sounds coming out of Audya like James gets out of Korg, that's why no Audya users are posting sound samples like his.
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#277079 - 12/03/09 12:01 AM Re: Example of just how powerful KORG engines are.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Irishacts:
Hi guys.

Here's a little something that you might find interesting


As it seems, people are more interested in setting up another thread about styles in the different brands of keyboards, leading up to yet another Audya bashing thing even.

Too bad. Let me reply to your initial posting then. Yes I find this VERY interesting, and I am very impressed by what you did here. This must have been one hell of a job to sample, tweak, alter, assign... and on top of that you wrote, played and produced beautifully a couple of great songs to use all those new sounds. Excellent job! Thanks for sharing these recordings!

Expect some traffic from visitors of a Dutch forum soon. I'm going to write about this there :-)

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