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#277124 - 12/06/09 07:42 AM Re: love/hate relationships
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
I love them all. Every keyboard from MOTL to TOTL does an outstanding job. They all have a host of attributes that make them stand apart from competitive brands in the same category, but overall, they're all great.

Keep in mind, however, that it is imperative that you learn the keyboard's operating system and know all of the intricate nuances that provide the end product you wish to achieve. I cannot stress the importance of this enough. I know dozens of players, guys and gals that play nite-clubs, bars, upscale restaurants, you name it and they play there, and more often than not they don't have a clue about what their keyboard can and cannot do when it comes to the board's inner workings.

Same holds true for sound systems. Most of the so-called Pro keyboards do not have speakers. Therefore, beyond the keyboard's EQ system, they must rely on the outboard sound system to provide the end product. How many times have you heard some guy standing on the stage and saying "check--check" into a mic, but never have someone listening in the audience area? Yeah, it happens a lot. That same individual will just as likely not check the output of his or her keyboard at all, especially at the audience level. DUMB!

The one component that makes them all sound great is a talented musician/entertainer sitting down at the keys. And, he or she does not have to be the greatest player on the planet, but they must (as DNJ used to say) deliver the goods.

Having owned lots of MOTL keyboards over the years, including Korg, Yamaha, Roland, and several others, I can honestly say they ALL sounded great. And, for the most part, when I upgraded it was primarily for technological advances, followed by improvements in sound quality, and of course, lots of new styles.

I guess what I'm trying to say is it's hard to dislike any aspect an instrument that provides me with such a wonderful source of music, entertainment and at the same time, provides me with a good income. Yep, I still love them all!

Cheers,

Gary
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#277125 - 12/06/09 06:35 PM Re: love/hate relationships
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Quote:
Originally posted by montunoman:
What do you love and hate about your arranger keyboard?

Maybe youve found the perfect keyboard but Im still looking and probably always will. What does your keyboard do particularly well? What do wish it did better? If you could pick and chose features from various manufactures, what would you come up with?


I have read many, many posts that say what does the keyboard have to offer me good question but the answer for enjoying/loving your keyboard lies in a different question. What am I offer my keyboard? How much am I willing to learn in order to bring the best out of my keyboard.

My belief is that all the major keyboards can do a great job when given a good amount time and effort. We often turn to a different keyboard for the wrong reasons.

John C.

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#277126 - 12/06/09 08:25 PM Re: love/hate relationships
Eric, B Offline
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Registered: 12/15/99
Posts: 2029
Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
Great post John.
I must say for myself that I always looked around what KB will fit my needs the best.
I loved every KB that I had and got the best out of it by making it my own.
Currently I own a Tyros 3.
To me the Tyros 3 finally completes the Tyros.
It has all the goodies that I missed in the T2... except... that darn vocal harmonizer.
Went out, got myself the Voice live2; problem solved.
As John said, most posts are complaining about our own or someone elses KB rather than figuring out what our own KB has to offer...
As I said I loved all my KB's until something better came along.
I'm spending more time finding out what I can do with it rather than what I can't..
Keeps me happy that way.
Eric



[This message has been edited by Eric, B (edited 12-06-2009).]
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#277127 - 12/06/09 08:28 PM Re: love/hate relationships
Eric, B Offline
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Registered: 12/15/99
Posts: 2029
Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
sorry double post

[This message has been edited by Eric, B (edited 12-06-2009).]
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#277128 - 12/06/09 08:41 PM Re: love/hate relationships
Taike Offline
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Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 2814
Loc: Xingyi, Guizhou (China)
Quote:
Originally posted by Eric, B:
Great post John.
I must say for myself that I always looked around what KB will fit my needs the best.
I loved every KB that I had and got the best out of it by making it my own.
Currently I own a Tyros 3.
To me the Tyros 3 finally completes the Tyros.
It has all the goodies that I missed in the T2... except... that darn vocal harmonizer.
Went out, got myself the Voice live2; problem solved.
As John said, most posts are complaining about our own or someone elses KB rather than figuring out what our own KB has to offer...
As I said I loved all my KB's until something better came along.
I'm spending more time finding out what I can do with it rather than what I can't..
Keeps me happy that way.
Eric
[This message has been edited by Eric, B (edited 12-06-2009).]


That's pretty much how a lot of men treat their wives. They wonder why they get the silent treatment and instead of figuring out what caused the problem go look elsewhere. A woman giving you the silent treatment has a reason for doing so. Hasn't happened to me so I must be doing something right.

Regards

Taike

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#277129 - 12/07/09 10:39 AM Re: love/hate relationships
captain Russ Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
I have only had Ketron and Roland arrangers.

What I like about them is being able to use them to play a wide variety of jobs, and the ease of transport.

What I dislike is the mechanical sounding output (even on the Audia). I ALWAYS prefer real players if that is at all possible. There will NEVER be an arranger I'd preferr over working with other musicians.


R.

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