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#279704 - 01/19/10 06:30 PM Re: BA330 and Bose Compact..tested today
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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BTW: the star of today's experiment was not the Bose or the BA330 (almost)..but the Edirol M-10dx mixer..

It made the Bose better..
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#279705 - 01/19/10 06:33 PM Re: BA330 and Bose Compact..tested today
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally posted by BBBB:
Interesting Fran. I do not own a compact but I do use the BOSE T1 mixer with my BOSE L1 Model II and Bass. I am curious if using the T1 with a compact would produce better results than the built in presets on the compact. These are quite limited. Another opportunity for an A/B test! . Brian


Brian I heard the same missing range with the big L1..the Tone match didn't solve it..the Edirol will..Honest..it makes a difference..
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#279706 - 01/19/10 06:35 PM Re: BA330 and Bose Compact..tested today
Fran Carango Offline
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
I forgot to mention..with the RAC turned off ..you could not dial in an EQ to bring out the missing range..but turn on the RAC..and you have it all..
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#279707 - 01/19/10 08:51 PM Re: BA330 and Bose Compact..tested today
GlennT Offline
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Loc: Medina, OH, USA
"about the Bose..There is a low/mid range that doesn't exist"

Fran, I couldn't agree more. I've used the Bose L1 and now the Compact. For a medium/large venue I'll add my Barbetta SE32 which fills that void very nicely. Hard to believe that adding a mixer can create something that's not there to begin with. And BTW, I had (and returned) the ToneMatch and you're right, that didn't do it.

Thanks for the review, I'll have to give the Edirol a try.

Glenn

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#279708 - 01/19/10 09:17 PM Re: BA330 and Bose Compact..tested today
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Loc: NW Florida
Thing is, Fran, absolutely nowhere in your review do you actually state what your intended use IS, or any information about absolute volume levels. SOME of us are not fortunate or spendthrift enough to be able to carry three or four completely different PA's for different usages. We just want to know what is the MAXIMUM level it can stay clean for, and we can decide for ourselves if that covers all our needs. You can turn down a PA that is too big, but you can't turn UP one that is too small...

A review that ignores what something is and isn't capable of is of lesser usefulness, IMO. You DO have a honking big PA, so at least you are in a position to judge for all of us that can't make the comparison for ourselves how close something gets to that, and, trust me, that IS useful information...
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#279709 - 01/20/10 07:01 AM Re: BA330 and Bose Compact..tested today
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
Well that does it for me I'm selling all my Bose equipment.

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#279710 - 01/20/10 08:06 AM Re: BA330 and Bose Compact..tested today
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Originally posted by Stephenm52:
Well that does it for me I'm selling all my Bose equipment.


Since I already own the Edirol mixer...and the Bose did sound so much better with the RAC feature......I may have to get me a Bose Compact...

Stephen..how much..for yours?...
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#279711 - 01/20/10 08:15 AM Re: BA330 and Bose Compact..tested today
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Dang it guys...I didn't condemn the Bose...I just came across a way to correct a known problem (many Bose owners confirmed) with the L1...You guys should be thrilled ..knowing for a couple more $$$..you can hear what we hear...

I did a "giant" service for you guys..This A/b experiment was an eye opening experience..and we shared it with you...
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#279712 - 01/20/10 08:56 AM Re: BA330 and Bose Compact..tested today
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
Since I already own the Edirol mixer...and the Bose did sound so much better with the RAC feature......I may have to get me a Bose Compact...

Stephen..how much..for yours?...


Fran, I think I'm gonna wait to sell the Bose, I get a little hyped up with the A/B test. Makes more sense just to buy the Edirol mixer. Gotta agree that was an eye opener.

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#279713 - 01/20/10 11:22 AM Re: BA330 and Bose Compact..tested today
miden Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 3354
Loc: The World
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
BTW: the star of today's experiment was not the Bose or the BA330 (almost)..but the Edirol M-10dx mixer..

It made the Bose better..


One of the noisiest small form mixers out there. The amount of white noise introduced by the channel pots, particularly from when it is positioned from about half its gain travel, is totally unacceptable. MOre so on the stereo line pots.

And any setting less than half does not send a strong enough gain to properly drive an amp.

Way too much hiss.
Great concept, excellent size but poorly implemented. Roland definitely could have done better with this. It is the same with the M16 as well.

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