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#280031 - 01/28/10 02:42 PM Re: Someone tried the software way, LiveStyler ect ?
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
You need polyphonic portamento with a time of zero to be able to achieve this effect. Are you telling me you KNOW for sure that all the soft synths, and VSTi sample sets actually CAN do this?

Or are you assuming?

Are you also assuming that LiveStyler or whatever soft arranger you are using actually SENDS the right codes, too? Or once again just assuming..?

I'd be interested to hear if these really ARE implemented. Got a web page you can direct me to to see the specs?
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#280032 - 01/29/10 02:36 AM Re: Someone tried the software way, LiveStyler ect ?
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5386
Loc: English Riviera, UK
Hi Diki
Both the Wersi OAS arranger (Over 10 years old and the most basic (Primitive) arranger on the planet) and the Wersi OAA (One of the more advanced arranger sections on the market) send this information, (Manually selectable for when using converted styles or Midi to style conversions) and they work on both Akai samples and VSTi with no problems. (Closed arrangers may or may not have these options user selectable as all new voices are provided by the manufacture, whereas Open keyboards or software have no option but to include them, as there is no way the manufacture can know what the user is going to use)
Note: Wersi calls these options Pad Mode in OAS, and they come under Edit Pattern in the OAA
http://www.4shared.com/file/118234194/6ebca341/OAA_Screenshots.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/118477498/50adc7b2/OAS_Style_Screenshots.html


Regards

Bill

[This message has been edited by abacus (edited 01-29-2010).]
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#280033 - 01/29/10 11:05 PM Re: Someone tried the software way, LiveStyler ect ?
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Registered: 03/02/06
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I have been playing with live styler for some time now...

Its fun for at home, and while i can play all yamaha styles nothing works straight out of the box. Everything needs to be eddited.

Since i work under Linux (i can use multiple vst hosts under Linux) much of the stuff i use can also be found in the mediastation, whenever i have a great setup for my styles it sounds better then on T3, with a good top of the line Quad core processor and 8 gigs of memmory i barely get above 70 or 80% processor power, even when layering multiple sounds on every track.

I use NI complete as the base of my arranger, but many other vst's in addition to that.

I only play in my home, and i don't know if i would use a set-up like this when gigging.
The solution is stable enough for sure, no crashes even when doing some very strange things. But somehow i think i would prefer a combination of arranger and solo synth when gigging with some of my VST sounds comming intoo the Mix as solo voices too.

I currently have an 88 key master keyboard connected to my PC set-up and i am considering a seccond (61 keys board) but i am also tempted to invest intoo adding a V-synth or an M3(KARMA)

IF Korg would add KARMA to the next line of PA arrangers, i would certainly buy it..
And i am still considering a solution like mediastation or Open labs (if they only allowed multiple ASIO ports) to replace my PC set-up.

I play all kinds of music depending on my mood, from classical to jazz, from european folk to house. Its all possible with a software setup.

Live styler is a good product and not too expensive, so just try it out if you want to, and get your own opinion, as that is what matters most. There are enough free vst's of good and stellar sound quallity to start out with before investing any more money...

Keep in mind that with the costs of these vst's its not necessarilly a cheeper solution then a TOTL arranger.
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#280034 - 01/30/10 12:06 AM Re: Someone tried the software way, LiveStyler ect ?
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Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 41
Loc: quebec
I sent back my psr-s910 to the store today and get out with a new Korg M3

I must say that the keybed of the M3 vs the 910 is stellar and there's Karma that is soooo awesome + Zillions of functions ...

Bachus: Thanks, will try livestyler with Komplete as it seems a nice alternative to entertain myself at home with the M3 as a controller.

MJ
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#280035 - 01/30/10 02:49 AM Re: Someone tried the software way, LiveStyler ect ?
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Loc: English Riviera, UK
Hi Bahcus
This should suit you then, as it’s available for Mac, Windows and Linux http://jackaudio.org/
Regards

Bill
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