Diki,
Absolutely agree!

I play in home studio...not out. So I'm looking at adding Muse to my PA2. Could even take it out if I get into that later.

Then, maybe I'll quit bitching about the lack of truely TOP qualiy sounds especialy for solo play.

I'm convinced NONE of the arranger mfg's are going to do it internally. So, I'll do it another way.

Lee S.

Wersi & Lionstracs have been doing it for years

I agree. However, in Wersi's case, it's price prohibitive, and in the MS's case, it's at the cost of a TOTL arranger section. I happen to think that if your primary need for VSTi's is better quality RH sounds, adding a Musebox or V-Machine to an already great sounding, affordable arranger is still your best bet.

lol... so what then, buy a keyboard with so little memory that you won't be tempted to load any sounds into it ?

I'd rather have 1GB that can be used for lots of different things than a tiny 64MB. There are countless libraries out there that would make excellent use of 1GB of RAM.

it should have 2gb....
why not?

oh, i'm sorry that would jack up the price $50

oh god here we go again,

where are these rumors comming from re the the module and the other improvements to Audya, where is the official word except AJ's comments about 1 to go with no detail except will knock our socks off, and so on, I mean I've got an SD3 love it to death, and i'm still waiting for futher support on it in the way of more styles and so on, this was out a long long time before Audya was, so i understand the concern over Audya, but have pitty on us SD5/3 owners, looks like your getting yours before us, and thats not making me a happy Ketron owner!!

I would have no argument with that, if arrangers were just for professionals or those with a dedicated room, (Studio) however virtually all arrangers (Particularly TOTL) are sold to home players who normally have partners, and having additional boxes and cable in the lounge (Where most will be situated) is a no no, also if you handed a Muse or V machine to most home players (With the instruction books) all you would get is a blank look, and “I can’t understand that”.
Combine it all into a single board however, and they can have top notch sounds and keep their partners happy all at the same time.

Bill

If you read the first post in the thread you will see that nobody is spreading rumours.

A simple question was asked and everyone is just sharing their opinion on it.

Regards
James

V-machine would be great for VST's, or muse or any other of those sollutions...

But i really would love to controll the sounds from my arrangers touch screen in live setup.

I keep trying to explain that the innards of things like the Audya are completely different to a normal computer. I really don't know why some here refuse to acknowledge something they could confirm as easily as opening up their arranger and taking a look. You all make it sound like there's some vast conspiracy to deny you all vast RAM amounts, or the latest greatest peripheral connectivity standards, or high def video out, yada yada yada...

The truth is, these things work off of proprietary chips, not the motherboard of some off the shelf computer. I mean, this is bloody obvious, because it's next to impossible to get a modern motherboard WITHOUT USB2, and plenty of RAM addressing. The MS and Wersi are the only arrangers based around normal computer hardware. The rest use RISC chips, dedicated hardware chips, etc., which are cheaper than a full motherboard, but don't get made as fast as technology turns over. They are made in quantity, which assures cheapness, but are expensive to tool up for. Which is why you'll usually find arrangers and other keyboards trailing the tech curve.

Look, it's simple. Want multi GB sized RAM, even streaming RAM? Want USB2? Want hi-def video out? Want to play with VSTi's and huge RAM sized samples?

Get an MS. The tool you want exists. The trouble is, if you want to be on the bleeding edge, you've got to be prepared to bleed...

It seems to me that, if you are willing to make huge sample sets work on an Audya (remember, virtually NO sample set for one sampler comes in to another sampler with all its' associated synth programming intact... you'll have to do ALL the voice programming yourself), you are probably technical enough to make the MS work for you, and it has ALL the modern gewgaws that you are always clamoring for.

In the meantime, pay close attention to Robbo's post. This is a point I've made in the past. GB sized RAM amounts and high speed load up are OK, but what's the POINT if you are stuck with an arranger that the factory has made few new styles for in YEARS? If you prioritize your needs in an arranger, let's face it, plenty of new styles, and often, is WAY higher on the list than an increase in the RAM. Things like this, and the inability for the sound engine to stream fast enough to make playing ALL chords in audio possible rank FAR higher on the list of things to worry about, IMO.

Past performance is always a good indicator of future efforts, and, no matter what Ketron SAY, I'd be basing my expectations of new styles (and even new features) on what Ketron has done in the past. So don't hold your breath waiting for a boatload of new styles every now and then. Or a GB of RAM