Style list comes with the GW-8L OS2 update docs from Roland's site. Just d/l the update, docs are included.

Thanks for the list. wow, lots of cumbias. Only one salsa? It better be good! There seems to be no on line demos of the salsa which makes me suspect that it's not good.

There's no online demos of nearly all the Latin styles (I recorded the regular styles, Nigel has them hosted here somewhere), so I don't think that fact counts much for OR against them...

I don't know- being that it is a Latin arranger you'd think they would show the Latin styles off. All I know on the official Roland demo, there is some kind of weird hybrid salsa with tamborine. What's up with that?

Hello everyone:

I have been trying for YEARS telling to different arranger manufacturers about the “Real Latino” styles, not the current Ballroom Latin styles in all the keyboards.

My friend Juan Miguel Zarate and I finished around a year ago a project making 32 styles that STILL not in the keyboards for a well known brand, but, I guess their internal red tape is doing wonders, the ironic part, they complain for the low sales on the arrangers? If they would include this styles, perhaps an important part or the market would buy, is pointless to buy an arranger that does not support the music style the player will use mostly.
Too bad that they have release other music styles not even close in quality, and I guess, we will go back and re-design different variants of this style gender, and sell them ourselves.

The arranger division/style makers that grant access to the special software, SHOULD enable other than “them” to design styles.
They may be excellent musicians even virtuosos, BUT it does not mean that they can design ETHNIC styles correctly with the instrumentation or at least emulation, and the authentic musical phrasing.

I give you an example, the traditional Norteño band correct instrumentation is:
*Accordion (diatonic)
*Drums
*Electric Bass
*Bajo Sexto (like a tenor 12 String guitar)
*Sax
****NO TRUMPETS…those belong to the Mariachi, a TOTAL different band with OTHER instruments like Vihuela, Guitarron, Violins, Acoustic Guitar, could have also Harp, and some other variants.
So, stop the Speedy Gonzales sound track to inspire those guys and get real.

In the few arrangers that have an “intent” of this style, ALL of them have it WRONG… here is why, to begin, in all the arrangers there is NOT a sample Bajo Sexto, you make an emulation with a 12 String acoustic guitar, not Nylon guitar that is not even close the sound, it has to be as “nasal” as possible, and as long it plays a MAJOR chord, ONLY plays 2 notes, NOT 3 or more….right there is a BIG mistake, and that is only ONE detail.

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mdorantes

[This message has been edited by mdorantes (edited 04-10-2010).]

IMO

Roland is CLUELESS when it comes to LATIN styles.

And if you disagree, then you are CLUELESS as to what LATIN is, and how it should sound

no offense to ANYONE, just the facts

And you are CLUELESS, Lee, as to what is and isn't offensive...!

No offense

Have you played the GW-8L?

I know the Prelude (GW-8) is a different animal with it's latin styles compared to the G70....The Prelude latin styles remind me of the Ketron X1 latin stuff...

The Prelude is more than latin enough for my area...in fact overdone for the most part..for this area....Traditional still works best here, but the "new" latin styles sound great...Just don't know where I will use them...

Diki,

yes i have, and think the Latin styles in it are PATHETIC, really

IF they hired actual LATIN musicians to produce the styles,
then MAYBE they would be AUTHENTIC

Diki,
how is telling the TRUTH and giving MY opinion, being offensive?

then YOU are being offense in some way everytime you post

no offense :-)



[This message has been edited by leezone (edited 04-10-2010).]

I don't generally go as far as to say 'if you don't agree with me, you are CLUELESS', Lee. I don't mind giving my opinion, but am prepared to accept that people may not agree with me. Now, I might THINK that about them, but I generally don't say it.

There IS a difference!