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#28554 - 05/05/02 05:16 PM Song Save on xp50/60/80
Dave Morris Offline
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Registered: 07/16/99
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Loc: Sunbury-on-Thames, Middlesex, ...
Hi All

In the past I've noticed on 3rd party song files that some manage to load patches into TEMP data bank so that you needn't load a certain soundbank into the USER group before coz the song file will do it for you.

Does anyone know how I might be able to save sounds into the songs and rather than just the info that says Use performance {Whatever} and Patch {Whatever} it gives all the updated patch parameters?

It's not so straight forward in the manual and I'm sure it should be.

Is it actually possible to use my XP60 alone or do I have to create and save SYSEX into MIDI-1 format on a PC?

That really would defeat the purpose of having an onboard sequencer.

I love this XP60 workstation and have been using it stand alone more than ever. The Arp, Tempo sync and Effects are amazing.

Dave.


[This message has been edited by Dave Morris (edited 05-05-2002).]

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#28555 - 05/06/02 05:02 AM Re: Song Save on xp50/60/80
Dave Morris Offline
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Registered: 07/16/99
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Is it that old devil called SYSEX again? Anyone.

PS I can offically say that this isn't supported in the manual sufficiently.

Any SYSEXperts out there?

Anyone got a simpler remedy?

ooŽ

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#28556 - 05/06/02 08:26 AM Re: Song Save on xp50/60/80
dnarkosis Offline
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Registered: 01/01/01
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Loc: usa
>>"In the past I've noticed on 3rd party song files that some manage to load patches into TEMP data bank so that you needn't load a certain soundbank into the USER group before coz the song file will do it for you.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Are you talking about the difference between .svd files and .mid files with patch sysex at the beginning?

.SVD files are loaded directly into user locations. .Mid files with patch sysex are loaded into whichever location (Temp or User) they were originally saved from.

>Does anyone know how I might be able to save sounds into the songs and rather than just the info that says Use performance {Whatever} and Patch {Whatever} it gives all the updated patch parameters?

You can save patches as sysex into the beginning of a song using Transfer Data, but to have them available for a sequence you have to have them in a performance and have the performance saved either (1) as sysex itself (using the Song + Sound save method for your song) or as (2) a User performance in User memory.

>>Is it actually possible to use my XP60 alone or do I have to create and save SYSEX into MIDI-1 format on a PC?

Yes, you can use the XP60 alone. You don't need a computer except to snatch patches or whatever off the net.

But I'm still unsure I have understood your question correctly.

Anybody else?

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#28557 - 05/06/02 09:05 AM Re: Song Save on xp50/60/80
Dave Morris Offline
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Registered: 07/16/99
Posts: 79
Loc: Sunbury-on-Thames, Middlesex, ...
Yes, Thanks m8, I forgot about the data transfer facility. I'll give that a try.

My original message could have been simpler but it was concise and comprehensive.

I didn't know the format of those 3rd party files, whether they were .SVQ or .MID or whatever? I don't own them anymore.

It just happened that I'd load a song and then completely new performances or patches would appear.

I wondered how I could do that.

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#28558 - 05/06/02 10:12 AM Re: Song Save on xp50/60/80
dnarkosis Offline
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Registered: 01/01/01
Posts: 217
Loc: usa
>>"It just happened that I'd load a song and then completely new performances or patches would appear."

Okay, gotcha: In that case, the song has been saved as an .svq file with the Song + Sound option, which saves not only the sequenced song, but also all the performance settings including the patches, at the beginning of the song. It takes up a bunch of measures at the beginning of the song, which is why it takes a while for the song to actually start once you press Play: It's loading the sysex. All the songs on the demo disk are saved this way.

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