No doubt the larger core samples are better than the smaller mega-voice samples, but in the case of the accompaniment, as you have already stated, the mega-voices are set up to standout when used for styles...which was their intended purpose all along.

This was what was confusing me and several others...the boast was that the Mediastation's VST's would sound better playing a Tyros2's style, than the mega-voices used by the Tyros2.

The VST's in the Mediastation, as far as I know, were not intended to be used in styles...Yamaha's mega-voices were made specifically for that purpose...hearing an intro on a Yamaha style using several mega-voices such as bass, guitar, strings, saxophone, etc, is pretty impressive....even my S910 sounds quite awesome.

So, until the Mediastation's VST's can do what Yamaha's mega-voices do so well, it's a bit of a stretch for some people to claim they are better for that particular purpose.

Yes, the Mediastation is an impressive VST player...as an arranger, as of today, and according to Fran, it doesn't even do better than an old G-70.

Hopefully, with the proper VST and some tweaking, it can be made to sound more impressive...maybe not with the same detail allowed by Yamaha's mega-voices, but formidable in it's own way.

Ian

Hi Dennis.



Heck no, not at all mate.
Don't let anything I'm doing stop you at all. Things are kind of crazy here at the moment anyway.



A lot of what's being said is very unfair. It's like there is some sick hope that everything would have fallen flat on it's face. Oh well. ….

Cheers
James.

I do not want, make you angry!

You forget the MS in your list, lol

about roland:

but maby i am still a little roland fan, lol

roland arrangers are just a little different from other brands.

They have many strong sides when going on styles and sounds, sampling only makes them weak compared to Korg or yamaha costum voices.
becouse after they introduced Roland Va- with variphrase sampling they removed sampler
with G-70, so big mistake

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Ditto that!!

D

So people after 7 years still do not get the concept of the MS. When you hear statements like "mediastation's VST" it shows a lack of understanding.
An MS does not come with premium VST content.

Of course it doesn't come with premium VST content...they have to be added...everyone knows at least that much about it.

But, thanks for the information all the same...perhaps there are a few who don't know it as well as you do.

BTW, do you have a Mediastation? If not, are you considering the purchase of one?

Ian

Ian, don't quote me out of context..

Here is what I said...

Ian, I have already done that...the G70 won hands down...

but.....I only have used the default Yamaha vst...and not the "best" sounds possible...
I used this combination with Live Styler..

Now that I have the new Arranger program, that plays native Ketron as well as Yamaha styles without conversion...I want to finish a better GM bank than the Yamaha VST offered..I think NI Bandstand will be a lot better than the Yamaha VST..(2 gigs compared to 2 megs sample size)...

Yes, you are correct...it doesn't sound as good as your old G-70.

Ian

PS...you aren't going to try and tell me your G-70 is new?

My G70 is newer than the Yamaha VST I used and also my original MediaStation...

How old is your G-70? Didn't you already have it when you got the Mediastation?

Or, did you have two Mediastations, the first being replaced by an upgraded, or newer, model?

Ian