Danny yes I agree ....but I would love them to just talk with players, & professionals who use Yamaha arrangers and work more on navigational changes to make it easier to get around in real time mostly as the sound & styles are truly amazing now, not perfect mind you, but a few tweaks and realism adjustments to some genres like Latin and a few others would be nice. I know they will shine on whatever the next offerings will be.

I can't see you or Dennis interested in anything else...you already have the instruments that meet your needs, or, maybe even surpass them.

The only one of the "big three"(Yamaha, Roland, Korg) currently making a 76'er is Korg.

Ian

Hmmmm is that why you play a 61 key Roland Prelude on stage instead of the 76 key G70?...

Thing is, the same market forces that prevent Yamaha from making a quality 76 are the exact forces that stop them from providing professional features you DO want, Donny...

They make these things for home users ONLY, and you might as well bark at the moon for any pro features to make it into their OS... It's all well and good to make fun of someone ELSE'S pro needs, but it's not so funny when they ignore YOU completely as well, is it?

Ha ha...I was going to mention this, as Fran had made this admission in several posts, but I was too lazy to go dig them out.

As I said earlier, I'm glad I can gig equally well with a 76'er or a 61, as it doubles my choices.

Yamaha stopped making 76 note arrangers (the ill-fated PSR-9000 Pro), as did Roland (G-70/E-60)...must be a reason for them to be discontinued...I'd say it was poor sales.

Very few PSR-9000 Pro and G-70/E-60 were sold in my territory, and we have a healthy arranger market (quite a few pros, too) compared to the rest of Canada.

It would be interesting to see how well these 76-note models did world-wide.

Korg appears to have the 76-note market to themselves, but from what I've read here, and on other forums, the PA-500/800 five octave keyboards allegedly far outsell the 76-note PA2XPro...of course they are cheaper, but if there are so many pros going for 76, why aren't the numbers closer than they stand?

I have a strong feeling there may not be a PA2XPro successor, and that will leave the field to the Mediastation and the Audya.

Time will tell.

Ian

1 GB of factory sound ROM with many incredible sounds
Ability to load multi gigabyte sound files such as Giga
Ability to load many VST's at once
Ability to load AKAI samples
Real Drums
MP3, WAV, CD, DVD, and Video playback
Multitrack sequencer with audio capability
Multitrack direct to disc recording
Full featured arranger controls with editing
Numerous real time controls
Various sound generators including Sampling, FM, analog modeling, and wavetable synthesis
Full drawbars
Harmonizer with dual microphone inputs
Ability to play back numerous styles from other manufacturers using OAA
Ability to play back Yamaha styles directly
Full color high resolution touch screen
Ability for expansion with foot pedals and additional music keyboards
Many more features too numerous to mention

That hardly sounds like an "average" arranger and I can't think of any other arranger with these features at any price. Only the Mediastation comes close but even the MS isn't as well integrated as the Wersi. By the time the big three release a product with these features Wersi and Liontracs will have already added features the other manufacturers haven't even thought of yet.

Think what you will but Wersi has been ahead of the game technologically for quite some time. Their pitfall is that the market for these types of instruments is very small and those that can afford these types of instruments even smaller.

I'd say Yamaha discontinued the 9000 Pro because it had numerous hardware issues that could not be addressed by a software update. Poor sales were a direct reflection of the problems caused by the slow CPU Yamaha decided to use in the 9000 Pro. Word travels fast when problems arise and Yamaha knowing the 9000 Pro was plagued pulled the plug. They made sure the CPU in the Tyros was faster after all the problems they had with the 9000 Pro. You can be certain had Yamaha used the same slow processor in the Tyros, the Tyros would have failed due to numerous hardware and software issues.

It's easier to dupe someone when the intended purpose is for home use and most users aren't savvy. I think Yamaha figured business as usual would work in the Pro Market but it backfired. Serious pros need an instrument that will do what the manufacturer claims and works 24 hours a day 365 days a year. Since the 9000 Pro's demise I believe Yamaha has decided to stick to selling home keyboards which is why the Tyros and PSR series sells well.

Do you mean the same high standards Yamaha had for the likes of the 9000 Pro? What about the issues Yamaha had with various PSR series from outsourcing to third world countries? Hardly what I would call dependable or practical.

Mmmm...let's see...the 9000 Pro was several years ago, and the Tyros being it's replacement, is very stable and very dependable.

Yamaha learned from their mistakes.

Yes, the changeover to third world countries was a bit of a problem at first...most, if not all companies have gone through similar issues when outsourcing.

The current PSR range is exceptionally stable and dependable.

Once again, Yamaha learned from their mistakes.

Thank you for mentioning those issues, and giving me an opportunity to clear them up.

Ian

Yamaha is NOT the leading arranger sales company Worldwide..it is Korg.
In the US...Yes they are.

Lee S.