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#289104 - 06/14/10 12:03 PM OT: Gulf Oil Blowout – Extinction Level Event in progress
Tapas Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 328
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
It appears an Extinction Level Event is in progress in the Gulf of Mexico.

The seabed has cracked in multiple points and is gushing up 120,000 barrels of oil per day.

Some scientists have put the estimate at around 300,000 barrels of oil per day along with a toxic gas flow of about 1 billion cubic feet per day.

There is no way to stop this blowout by conventional means.

The original well casing has been compromised and oil is forcing out through multiple failure points at extremely high pressure.

Leaks have been discovered on the sea floor over 20 miles from the original well. This is based on the 3 separate underwater oil plumes that have been reported to date.

The relief well is not a viable option any more under these circumstances.

The only way left is to slant drill a hole deep into the crust and detonate a nuke to collapse the well bore and fuse the leaks. However, this is an extremely risky operation. It could make things a lot worse by collapsing the sea floor.

Here is a NOAA computer simulation of the spill trajectory over a span of 132 days. We are at day 54.

http://tinyurl.com/28gqxoo


The oil itself will poison the water and kill off all the marine life in the Gulf of Mexico. However, this is not the worst part. The invisible killer is the toxic gas that it spewing out of the well estimated around 1 billion cubic feet per day.

EPA took some test readings of Volatile Organic Compounds in the Gulf and came up with a startling report.

1. Hydrogen Sulfide = 1200 parts per billion (Safe Level 5-10 parts per billion)

2. Benzene = 3000 parts per billion (Safe Level 1-4 parts per billion)

3. Methylene Chloride = 3400 parts per billion (Safe Level 61 parts per billion)


This will cause respiratory illness for millions, cancer, and result in birth defects of new born babies.

A major hurricane can sweep these deadly contaminants across the Eastern half of the United States. Please see the included JPEG.

Here is a quote from a scary article by Dr. Wickstrom:

"The hole will continue to increase in size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf. After several billion barrels of oil have been released, the pressure within the massive cavity five miles beneath the ocean floor will begin to normalize.

This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1 mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was. The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more.

The water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to fully calculate the rise of the floor.

The tsunami wave this will create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole.

Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life."
http://tinyurl.com/32w2os9


The situation is getting so bad each passing day that now LATOC has created a new forum to discuss the Gulf Oil Disaster.
http://tinyurl.com/27skvwc


This forum has a collection of threads discussing various aspects of the Gulf Oil Blowout.

Here is one thread discussing the real leak which is much bigger and more toxic:

http://tinyurl.com/2cn6g54


Gut wrenching scenes from the Gulf of Mexico:

http://tinyurl.com/34pd9fv


Here is a detailed explanation of all failed attempts by BP to cap the well and the ramifications of a “downhole leak”.

http://tinyurl.com/2644tym


The Macondo reservoir is estimated to hold 2 to 2.5 Billion Barrels of oil. If the seabed disintegrates, all of this oil will be released.

BP has sprayed over 1 million gallons of COREXIT to date to hide the underwater oil plumes from reaching the surface. This dispersant which was banned in the UK, is 4 times more toxic than oil by itself. However, when combined with oil, it is 11 times more toxic and would make matters worse.

http://tinyurl.com/35dmda2


Even more alarming is the news coming out that BP has hired Wackenhut Corporation, a private security contractor, to do the spraying of Corexit on populated areas along the coastline. Here is a first hand account by witnesses mentioning how the spraying is being conducted under the cover of darkness in the middle of the night.

http://tinyurl.com/294xuxn


Listen to “Episode 81.1: James Fox - Jun 13, 2010 Update”

People living 300 miles inland can smell the foul air – like battery acid.

We have entered into uncharted territories.

Soon plans will be laid out to evacuate 30 million people living within 200 miles of the Gulf Coast. The highly toxic COREXIT may vaporize forming clouds and raining down the chemicals affecting everyone living on the Eastern half of the US:
http://tinyurl.com/25yxnne

Fellow musicians living along the Gulf Coast, please use this forum to relay your personal experiences and stay in touch.

Let us be prepared for the worst and hope for the best.

Peace.

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#289105 - 06/14/10 12:57 PM Re: OT: Gulf Oil Blowout – Extinction Level Event in progress
captain Russ Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
So awful...almost unbelievable. Thanks so much for an obviously in-depth, time consuming fact gathering effort.

The enormity of the irresponsibility, combined with the "spin" to hide the real retails almost defies description.

Let's all hope for a better resolution than is predicted.


Russ

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#289106 - 06/14/10 04:41 PM Re: OT: Gulf Oil Blowout – Extinction Level Event in progress
rattley Offline
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Registered: 11/14/99
Posts: 838
Loc: Punta Gorda Florida USA
Hello Tapas!

Haven't heard from you in a while.................too bad it has to be about such a grim topic. I live on the west coast of Florida and get to see the gulf almost every day. Now when I look I see all the pain and misery where the oil is destroying life and lives. I'm greatful the impact to my coast isn't (yet) expected to be as bad, yet I realize any tropical storm or hurricane could change the predictions. It's hard to accept that such greed and irresponsibility could poison such a huge body of water. The effects will last for years and years............... -charley

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#289107 - 06/14/10 07:58 PM Re: OT: Gulf Oil Blowout – Extinction Level Event in progress
Machetero Offline
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Registered: 08/21/09
Posts: 359
Loc: Tampa, Florida, USA
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#289108 - 06/14/10 08:11 PM Re: OT: Gulf Oil Blowout – Extinction Level Event in progress
Tapas Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 328
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona, USA
Hi Charley,

Good to hear from you. I am glad to hear you will be safe.

You are correct that greed and irresponsibility has caused this disaster.

I agree with Captain Russ that the “spin” to hide the truth is beyond belief. In the beginning they were admitting to the leak being only 1000 barrels a day.

Now independent observers and scientists are saying the oil gushing out of the seabed from multiple points is around 120,000 barrels per day. Or in other words, this is the same as having an Exxon Valdez size spill every 2 to 3 days, which was our previous record for the largest oil spill in US history.

It takes merely a quart of motor oil to render 250,000 gallons of seawater toxic to marine life.

If this wellhead cannot be capped, the consequences to the ecosystem could be catastrophic.

The Deepwater Horizon offshore drilling platform was a state of the art engineering marvel. It tested the limits of human engineering for exploring ultra-deepwater oil. This 600 million dollar rig floated on the ocean where the depth to the seabed was 5000 feet.

They had to bore through another 18,360 feet to get to the oil layer trapped under extreme heat and pressure.

The cost of operating this oil rig was $1 million a day. It now appears that they went through a series of reckless cost cutting measures that compromised safety and standard operating procedures that led to the final blow up.

Off shore rigs are generally mandated to be equipped with remote controlled or acoustic shut off switches. They cost half a million dollars – only a tiny fraction of the $600 million project cost. Deepwater Horizon had none. It was assumed a spill or an accident would be very unlikely.

This was an exploratory well. This was not meant for production. Production was to begin in another year or two.

During the operation, they failed to cement and plug the well properly.

On the fateful day of April 20, 2010, natural gas under extreme pressure gushed through the faulty plug and shot straight up the riser to the rig. It blew out all the safety valves, all the way to the last one on the rig itself.

The blow out preventer (BOP) sitting on the seabed failed.

The rig exploded incinerating 11 crew members and sank to the ocean floor.

Was it worth it to speed up the process by a few days to save a few million dollars? The environmental bill will come in to the tune of Trillions of dollars. Who will pay? BP will file for bankruptcy while you and I will pick up the tab.

Rolling Stones has an in-depth investigative report showing how lax regulations led to this mishap. There was no accountability.

http://tinyurl.com/2gyo76c


There is no way to measure the human tragedy that will befall millions losing their jobs, livelihood, homes, and long term health effects.

April 20, 2010 will mark a sad day in US history where greed triumphed over basic decency and thoughtfulness.

Take care and stay safe.

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#289109 - 06/15/10 12:47 AM Re: OT: Gulf Oil Blowout – Extinction Level Event in progress
Robbo Offline
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Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 570
Loc: Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
It was only recently that the oil companies were telling us that putting rigs on the Great Barrier Reef would be safe, well I've got something to say, as we all should now, not only should they not be in environmental area's all rigs must be supervised under an international body of safety, and even the slightest hint of problems should mean a shut down until exit strategies can be adopted that work.

I feel for the Americ's today, a disaster of monumental proportions, but this is a world wide problem, that needs to be tackled from the top down, the world needs viable solutions for alternatives, and we know the oil and gas ownerships of the world are sitting on them, why are they buying up accellorated battery developement and not releasing them for general consumption, explain that, why do we keep electric cars still with an internal combustion engine, why haven't we developed ethanol as other countries have and insited that car makers make the carby that works with it as they have in Brazil I think, and why did GM get rid of the most popular fully electric car ever made, and so on..,,

Come on world we are on the edge and we can't afford to go over it....

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#289110 - 06/15/10 12:53 PM Re: OT: Gulf Oil Blowout – Extinction Level Event in progress
mr9000 Offline
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Registered: 01/14/05
Posts: 318
......yet sadly after reading all of this, all of us sorry sob's will glumly pick up the car keys and say to the pump attendant: "fill'r'up"

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#289111 - 06/15/10 07:44 PM Re: OT: Gulf Oil Blowout – Extinction Level Event in progress
Robbo Offline
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Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 570
Loc: Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
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mr9000 ......yet sadly after reading all of this, all of us sorry sob's will glumly pick up the car keys and say to the pump attendant: "fill'r'up"

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WE all have to do our bit, but dont just accept that you can't make change, I have been wanting an electric car in Australia for years now, but they have made every excuse for not delivering from the Govt down to the manufacturers, push em to the edge, get whats needed its called people power, and it starts with each and every one of us.

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#289112 - 06/15/10 07:53 PM Re: OT: Gulf Oil Blowout – Extinction Level Event in progress
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
If you get your information from a website called 'Doomers', expect worst case scenarios and THEN some!

Aren't these the same sort of people telling us about the end of the Mayan Calendar, too?

This disaster is bad enough without wild speculation and ELE hyperbole.
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#289113 - 06/16/10 12:23 PM Re: OT: Gulf Oil Blowout – Extinction Level Event in progress
SemiLiveMusic Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 2206
Loc: Louisiana, USA
This may doomsday talk, yes. Then again, hmmm. I am in the oil and gas business, and from day one, this thing really worried me.

About three weeks ago, I found an interview with Matt Simmons on MSNBC. Matt Simmons is a recognized global expert on oil and gas. A top-flight consultant and author. In that interview, Simmons said that the leak they were showing pictures of and the claims of 1000 barrels per day or whatever it was... was NOTHING. That there was a fissure in the sea floor five miles away that was flowing something like 60,000 barrels per day. He said the entire story we are seeing on t.v. is a smokescreen for the horrendous disaster that is really happening.

About a week ago, he was interviewed again. he stated that it is FAR worse than even he reported. He said that the pressure from that well had to be 40,000 psi to 50,000 psi. That is was the largest blowout in the history of the world. That, likely, NOTHING could have prevented this from happening. That is that big of a well. Totally unforeseen pressures and flow rates.

In the past few days, I have seen, in the mainstream media, more talk that is mirroring what he has been saying for the past few weeks!

I'll put it this way... I can see how this could be just as bad as what is written on this page. I hope not, but... it could happen. Could mankind screw up this bad. You bet. If that oil flow is not stemmed, the marine life in the gulf in the ocean depths could die. Which would start a chain reaction that could be catastrophic for the gulf region.

Now, this talk of the sea floor cratering and tsunamis and what not, I dunno, but forgetting all of that, just think how bad it will be if the oil just kills off the marine life.

It's just tragic.
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