http://www.yamahapkowner.com/?p=2343

Note all the Real Time Controls, that Arrangers dont have.

It sounds very nice, but do we really need another Motif ?

Whatever happened to Yamaha's innovation?

James

The Motif is in the same process as the Tyros.. No innovation, only a lot of small updates every few years that in the end make a (much)better instrument..

History tough has proven that as soon as companies stop being innovative this will be the beginning of the end ...

As i said in another post, i feel sorry for the company that once ruled inovation with products like DX7 and VL-1.

Wow that second demo was KILLER!!!!!!!!! OMG!!

Audya who?

LOL No need to feel sorry for Yamaha...They have 47% of the professional workstation market. Korg ruled with the M1 and Triton for a long time and laid an egg with the M3. Roland hasn't had a marque stage unit since the Jupiter days and the D series for a short time. Fantom is the loopers favorite for trance and dance. The Motif X series will be the king of the hill for awhile longer. As well as their Arrangers in the US anyway. Yamaha is a very healthy company. I ride a Yamaha V Star 1300 in whose factory the chromed drum hardware is made.....Yamaha has it going on many fronts. Don't cry for them....LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-HCyA-fDss

This video kind of shows that Yamaha is going nowhere with their sound and options...

(Tough the flash memmory was a needed update, they'd better had updated the rest of their hardware too)

Not really Bachus. Jammal just didnt find the new sounds in the XF because he didnt know where to look.

All the new sounds are in User bank 1

He has promised to do a new video.

double post



[This message has been edited by spalding1968 (edited 09-10-2010).]

Hi Abacus
Arrangers have more real-time controls when it comes to styles.
Workstations have more real-time controls when it comes to sounds.
Try not to get the two confused.


[This message has been edited by to the genesys (edited 09-10-2010).]

I suggest you have another look at the demo, and then have a look at the real time controls on an arranger. (It’s like chalk and cheese, in that arrangers have very few real time arranger or sound controls)
Regards

Bill

KORG's Pa-Series arrangers have had all that for years. By default they can do volume, Cut Off, Resonance, ADSR and effects direct from the factory on the sliders and outside that you can assign other functions to them.

You can even control an external PC or keyboard direct from the front panel of a KORG Arranger.

Regards
James

i was just about to post James and you beat me to it.

I suggest you have a look at the video again, and you will see that the assignable sliders on the Korg arrangers pale in comparison to the real time assignable controls on the XF.

I am talking about REAL TIME Assignment of all the ADSR etc. controls, and not having to keep going into menus (Or storing them in a pre-set) every time you need to change a function on a track.

Bill

But that is just real-time control of a sound.

A Korg arranger and any other arranger has better real-time style control over the XF.

I don’t know about the PA 2x pro, but on the XS and probably the XF, each of the 8 knobs have multiple functions.