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#292419 - 09/07/10 11:44 AM OT. Yamaha Moif XF Demos
abacus Offline
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http://www.yamahapkowner.com/?p=2343

Note all the Real Time Controls, that Arrangers dont have.
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#292420 - 09/07/10 12:26 PM Re: OT. Yamaha Moif XF Demos
Irishacts Offline
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It sounds very nice, but do we really need another Motif ?

Whatever happened to Yamaha's innovation?

James

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#292421 - 09/07/10 02:52 PM Re: OT. Yamaha Moif XF Demos
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Originally posted by Irishacts:
It sounds very nice, but do we really need another Motif ?

Whatever happened to Yamaha's innovation?

James


The Motif is in the same process as the Tyros.. No innovation, only a lot of small updates every few years that in the end make a (much)better instrument..

History tough has proven that as soon as companies stop being innovative this will be the beginning of the end ...

As i said in another post, i feel sorry for the company that once ruled inovation with products like DX7 and VL-1.
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#292422 - 09/07/10 06:39 PM Re: OT. Yamaha Moif XF Demos
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Wow that second demo was KILLER!!!!!!!!! OMG!!

Audya who?

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#292423 - 09/07/10 07:04 PM Re: OT. Yamaha Moif XF Demos
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bachus:
The Motif is in the same process as the Tyros.. No innovation, only a lot of small updates every few years that in the end make a (much)better instrument..

History tough has proven that as soon as companies stop being innovative this will be the beginning of the end ...

As i said in another post, i feel sorry for the company that once ruled inovation with products like DX7 and VL-1.


LOL No need to feel sorry for Yamaha...They have 47% of the professional workstation market. Korg ruled with the M1 and Triton for a long time and laid an egg with the M3. Roland hasn't had a marque stage unit since the Jupiter days and the D series for a short time. Fantom is the loopers favorite for trance and dance. The Motif X series will be the king of the hill for awhile longer. As well as their Arrangers in the US anyway. Yamaha is a very healthy company. I ride a Yamaha V Star 1300 in whose factory the chromed drum hardware is made.....Yamaha has it going on many fronts. Don't cry for them....LOL
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#292424 - 09/10/10 10:59 AM Re: OT. Yamaha Moif XF Demos
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-HCyA-fDss

This video kind of shows that Yamaha is going nowhere with their sound and options...

(Tough the flash memmory was a needed update, they'd better had updated the rest of their hardware too)
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#292425 - 09/10/10 03:24 PM Re: OT. Yamaha Moif XF Demos
spalding1968 Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
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Not really Bachus. Jammal just didnt find the new sounds in the XF because he didnt know where to look.

All the new sounds are in User bank 1

He has promised to do a new video.

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#292426 - 09/10/10 03:29 PM Re: OT. Yamaha Moif XF Demos
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double post



[This message has been edited by spalding1968 (edited 09-10-2010).]

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#292427 - 09/10/10 06:14 PM Re: OT. Yamaha Moif XF Demos
to the genesys Offline
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Originally posted by abacus:
http://www.yamahapkowner.com/?p=2343

Note all the Real Time Controls, that Arrangers dont have.


Hi Abacus
Arrangers have more real-time controls when it comes to styles.
Workstations have more real-time controls when it comes to sounds.
Try not to get the two confused.


[This message has been edited by to the genesys (edited 09-10-2010).]
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#292428 - 09/11/10 01:04 AM Re: OT. Yamaha Moif XF Demos
abacus Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by to the genesys:
Hi Abacus
Arrangers have more real-time controls when it comes to styles.
Workstations have more real-time controls when it comes to sounds.
Try not to get the two confused.


[This message has been edited by to the genesys (edited 09-10-2010).]


I suggest you have another look at the demo, and then have a look at the real time controls on an arranger. (It’s like chalk and cheese, in that arrangers have very few real time arranger or sound controls)
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Bill
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