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#293260 - 09/17/10 06:05 AM Re: Casio releases new TOTL arranger.....wow
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
I know I prefer to have 128 (considering Casio's already using this on other models).., but 64 is better than 32, and better than 48

I just need to see where they price these puppies at. The WK-7000 is on the table for me.., but only if it's priced right, and sounds good. I hope the effects are comparable to the WK-3500. The 3500 had one of the BEST distorted wha guitar effects I've ever heard on ANY keyboard to date.

Sqk
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#293261 - 09/17/10 07:53 AM Re: Casio releases new TOTL arranger.....wow
trident Offline
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Registered: 08/22/04
Posts: 1457
Loc: Athens, Greece
Good news! Now let's wait for the sound samples to surface.

Shame for the 2 variations though, they already had styles with 4 variations on the MZ, they could transfer them.

Squeak, nice to know you are still around.

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#293262 - 09/17/10 07:56 AM Re: Casio releases new TOTL arranger.....wow
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
the Wk series always had great Piano's and Organs w/ leslie efx.....but thats it the rest and styles leave alot to be desiered.....lets see if this has changed.

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#293263 - 09/17/10 06:01 PM Re: Casio releases new TOTL arranger.....wow
MChub Offline
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Registered: 09/17/10
Posts: 2
Loc: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
I am a total newbie looking for my first keyboard (studied piano as a kid but haven't played for >15 years), so please forgive me if I am getting something wrong. I was thinking about WK-3800 when this announcement of WK-7500/CTK-7000 appeared. I have checked the manual and it seems to me that besides all the improvements mentioned in this forum, they have actually removed some important features. In particular, the option of using your own samples ("user tones with waves") is no longer there. In fact, the ability to download stuff from the Internet ("Internet Data Expansion System"), which was one way to get those samples, is not even mentioned. Also, they have limited further the already limited synth capabilities by removing the option of adjusting the resonance (so now it's only attack, release and cutoff). Am I misunderstanding something? If not, any idea why they did that? It's extremely disappointing, because I wanted something that I could not only play, but also experiment with sounds and upload my own ones and the Casio WK series seems to be the only one in this price range to allow all of this.

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#293264 - 09/17/10 09:13 PM Re: Casio releases new TOTL arranger.....wow
Lucky2Bhere Offline
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Registered: 03/04/06
Posts: 533
I telephoned Casio today and was told the release date for the new arrangers is "October." I spoke to two reps and finally the dept supv. They all said the same thing...that they haven't been told anything at all about its release date other than October.

Even if that 7500 is NOT a TOTL-er, it doesn't mean it's not even worth considering. Diki said something a few weeks ago about buying or not buying the "latest and greatest" all the time (and "waste of time"). Since then I've been starting to think is a high end keyboard really worth it if all the bells & whistles are going to get in the way of me making my own music.

And then I'm also thinking reality thoughts. Most audiences wouldn't know (or even care) if you're playing the L&G (latest & greatest) or you're coaxing music out of an entry level Casio.

Lucky

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#293265 - 09/17/10 10:36 PM Re: Casio releases new TOTL arranger.....wow
elwoodblues1969 Offline
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Registered: 09/17/10
Posts: 40
Despite me being a previous owner of a couple of Casio models in the 80's-as well as a WK-3800 owner,I have been out of touch with Casio for most of the last 20 years and I was not even aware of the MZ-2000 until now....so I can easily understand some of the disappointments people here have toward the WK-7500.
However though,it's all about the sounds & I'm sure that Casio's sample quality has improved since then.
I'm also glad that Casio finally discarded those horrible floppy drives!

It's really amazing to me that how people's estimates of the possible price points vary so drastically.
The individual who mentioned the $500 price tag is either from Mars,or has never set foot into the semi-pro/pro world of keyboards.
Think about it...the WK-3800 only had 6 tracks,no pattern mode,no quantizing,no metronome,half the polyphony and half the tones.
Then on the other distant end of the spectrum,we have an individual who predicts that the WK-7500 will be a $1,000??

Doesn't this person have any clue as to what can be had for this price?
The Yamaha MO6,Korg M50(which buy the way,has 80 note polyphony,5 insert effects,3 master effects,a 4 X 5" touch screen display and is a scaled down version of the M3) and for $300 to $500 more,one could get a Kurzweil PC3LE6.

The person who mentioned the $700 to $900 range is most likely to be right on the money.

If by some remote possibility the WK-7500 ends up being $500 or $600,then it's going to be a horrendous piece of sh*t in terms of sounds and if it ends up being a grand,then the sound quality had better live up to that price tag,or Casio is going to go belly up.

I really miss some of the sounds & effects of the WK-3800 as they were unique,so if the WK-7500 is a step up from the 3800,then the 7500 should be a banging deal.

I really think Casio will be slitting their own throats,if they don't keep this board under a $1,000.

By the way...how much did the MZ-2000 go for back in the day?
I could not find a price on it anywhere,on the net.
The MZ's display screen was very impressive...I could not believe it when I saw it in a YouTube vid...but then again,I have no idea what the price tag was on it??


-Elwood

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#293266 - 09/17/10 10:50 PM Re: Casio releases new TOTL arranger.....wow
elwoodblues1969 Offline
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Registered: 09/17/10
Posts: 40
Another thing...someone here mentioned the WK-7500 being released in October and that is the second person I've read about,who mentioned the same month.....where are you people getting this information??

I combed though every article & product page I could find on the WK-7500 and I did not see a release date,anywhere??

I even e-mailed Casio several times,as well as phoning them,but they are Godd**n idiots and what's worse,is the American Casio site has no info on the WK-7500 whatsoever(apart from them having the PDF manual).

All this being said,I have a difficult time believing that the WK-7500 is going to be in stores in a couple of weeks or so.


-Elwood

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#293267 - 09/17/10 11:32 PM Re: Casio releases new TOTL arranger.....wow
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Elwood, at least you retracted your "crackhead" comment about me..

Since you have been out of touch ,,maybe I will give you a history lesson so you can make better decisions about pricing..

I think you will find that my $500 street price will be on the mark..let me explain it to you..in a way you should understand...

The WK300 (40 voices compared to the WK3800 32 voice), had a street price of under $200..

The WK500 street price was between $250 and $300..

With a marginal improved model..the WK7500 will be no more than double the WK500 street price..making it $500..


As for knowing products and pricing, I have made it my business to know..(former "pro" line music dealer for 20 years)...

BTW: dealer cost for the Casio MZ2000 was just under $950...
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#293268 - 09/17/10 11:36 PM Re: Casio releases new TOTL arranger.....wow
MChub Offline
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Registered: 09/17/10
Posts: 2
Loc: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
It is interesting that on the Japanese Casio site

http://casio.jp/emi/products/high_grade/

they only list CTK-7000 (the 61-key version), as well as WK-6500 and CTK-6000, but not WK-7500. The release date given there for CTK-7000 is 10/2010. Looks like they've changed their mind and WK-7500 will not be released at the same time. The price given there for CTK-7000 is 63,000 yen (or 66,150 with taxes), which is roughly $750, however, a few sites offer it for 49,800 yen (or ~$600). For instance,

http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/100000001001267238/index.html

http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/kurosawa-music/casio-ctk7000.html

http://www.kurosawagakki.com/items/detail/97580.html

http://www.ishibashi-webshop.jp/shop/g/g421026200/


http://www.coneco.net/PriceList.asp?COM_ID=1100904002


http://www.soundhouse.co.jp/shop/ProductDetail.asp?Item=225%5ECTK7000%5E%5E


These sites also give the release date as late October. If I remember correctly, at these same sites WK-7500 was also listed a few days ago (don't remember the price, though), but it seems it has been removed since.

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#293269 - 09/18/10 01:42 AM Re: Casio releases new TOTL arranger.....wow
gilbert Offline
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Registered: 03/09/02
Posts: 294
Loc: Oelsnitz /E Germany
For anyone Interested the Advertised Price which is always somewhat higher than the Buying Price, Is
Us Dollar 579
Euro 444
UK Pound 371.
Jap Yen 39800

Looks like Fran was Spot on.

Gilbert.

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